under linux, how do you update the ctrl dir. without overwrite the *.cfg or *.ini or the *.cnf or the guru.dat files?


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Re: question
By: Lord Time to All on Wed Dec 13 2017 10:22 pm

under linux, how do you update the ctrl dir. without overwrite the *.cfg or *.ini or the *.cnf or the guru.dat files?

Um... very carefully? Seriously though, what is it you want to update in there?

The idea of the ctrl directory is to contain files that are *all* particular to your BBS and it's configuration. So you wouldn't be expected to "update" it from stock/default files at any time.

That said, if you list the files sorted by date, you can probably pick out the files you've never modified. Look at them with a text editor (if they're .ini or .cfg or .conf) and verify you didn't actually make any changes (or any changes that you care about) and then over-write just *those* files from a download from CVS or vert (e.g. sbbs_run.tgz). If you do a directory comparision (between cvs and your local directory) you might find some *new* files in CVS and it would be safe to copy those over since you won't be over-writing anything of your own.

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Re: question
By: Lord Time to All on Wed Dec 13 2017 22:22:03

under linux, how do you update the ctrl dir. without overwrite the *.cfg or *.ini or the *.cnf or the guru.dat files?

with the ctrl directory, since most files are taylored to my system, if something new is added and a new file is added to the ctrl dir, etc, I usally goto cvs.synchro.net and view the files and download them from there to my control dir, that way I know I do not overwrite or merge with something I have customized. I do this with all the dirs exect dirs under the src dir now to make sure I don't nuke my config.

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Re: question
By: Digital Man to Lord Time on Thu Dec 14 2017 12:24 am

The idea of the ctrl directory is to contain files that are *all* particular to your BBS and it's configuration. So you wouldn't be expected to "update" it from stock/default files at any time.

I imagine that when new entries are added to ctrl\text.dat, it's probably good to put the new entries in your own text.dat file? What happens if you update your Synchronet binaries and are missing some of the new entries in text.dat? Does Synchronet use default values?

When I see that text.dat has some new entries, usually I'll copy the new entries into my own text.dat so that at least I'll see them there in case I want to customize those entries.

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Re: question
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Dec 14 2017 09:31 am

good to put the new entries in your own text.dat file? What happens if you update your Synchronet binaries and are missing some of the new entries in text.dat? Does Synchronet use default values?

it gives an error msg or it shits itself.
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Re: question
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Dec 14 2017 09:31 am

Re: question
By: Digital Man to Lord Time on Thu Dec 14 2017 12:24 am

The idea of the ctrl directory is to contain files that are *all* particular to your BBS and it's configuration. So you wouldn't be expected to "update" it from stock/default files at any time.

I imagine that when new entries are added to ctrl\text.dat, it's probably good to put the new entries in your own text.dat file? What happens if you update your Synchronet binaries and are missing some of the new entries in text.dat? Does Synchronet use default values?

Right, the default text.lines are hard-coded in sbbs now.

When I see that text.dat has some new entries, usually I'll copy the new entries into my own text.dat so that at least I'll see them there in case I want to customize those entries.

That's not a bad idea.

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Re: question
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 14 2017 05:53 pm

Re: question
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Dec 14 2017 09:31 am

good to put the new entries in your own text.dat file? What happens if you update your Synchronet binaries and are missing some of the new entries in text.dat? Does Synchronet use default values?

it gives an error msg or it shits itself.

Not since v3.15.

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Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Dec 14 2017 05:25 pm

if you update your Synchronet binaries and are missing some of the new entries in text.dat? Does Synchronet use default values?

it gives an error msg or it shits itself.

Not since v3.15.

oh that's good to hear.
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Re: question
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Dec 14 2017 05:24 pm

The idea of the ctrl directory is to contain files that are *all*
particular to your BBS and it's configuration. So you wouldn't be
expected to "update" it from stock/default files at any time.

I thought that was the purpose of the mods directory, did I miss something along the way?

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El 14/12/17 a las 03:22, Lord Time escribi≤:

under linux, how do you update the ctrl dir. without overwrite the *.cfg or *.ini or the *.cnf or the guru.dat files?

I have a separate ctrl directory for cvs updates.

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El 14/12/17 a las 14:31, Nightfox escribi≤:

Re: question
By: Digital Man to Lord Time on Thu Dec 14 2017 12:24 am

The idea of the ctrl directory is to contain files that are *all* particular to your BBS and it's configuration. So you wouldn't be

expected

to "update" it from stock/default files at any time.

I imagine that when new entries are added to ctrl\text.dat, it's probably

good

to put the new entries in your own text.dat file? What happens if you update your Synchronet binaries and are missing some of the new entries in text.dat?

Does Synchronet use default values?

When I see that text.dat has some new entries, usually I'll copy the new entries into my own text.dat so that at least I'll see them there in case I want to customize those entries.

I had a manual operatio for this. i cannot use diff or any other tool.
just detect new entry, add to my own text.dat and translate it(for my
case to spanish)

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Re: question
By: Digital Man to Lord Time on Thu Dec 14 2017 12:24 am

.ini or .cfg or .conf) and verify you didn't actually make any changes (or any changes that you care about) and then over-write just *those* files from a download from CVS or vert (e.g. sbbs_run.tgz). If you do a directory comparision (between cvs and your local directory) you might find some *new* files in CVS and it would be safe to copy those over since you won't be over-writing anything of your own.

so i have .cfg files and .ini files with the same prefix. like sockopts.ini and sockopts.cfg.

which is safe to delete?
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Re: question
By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Fri Dec 15 2017 06:49 am

Re: question
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Dec 14 2017 05:24 pm

The idea of the ctrl directory is to contain files that are *all* DM>> particular to your BBS and it's configuration. So you wouldn't be DM>> expected to "update" it from stock/default files at any time.

I thought that was the purpose of the mods directory, did I miss something along the way?

The 'mods' directory is for modified files normally found in exec or exec/load. If you want modify say the stock logon.js, copy it to mods and then modify it. Then an update of the exec directory won't overwrite your modified version.

The mosd directory is not for configuration files (normally found in ctrl).

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Re: question
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Dec 16 2017 03:56 pm

Re: question
By: Digital Man to Lord Time on Thu Dec 14 2017 12:24 am

.ini or .cfg or .conf) and verify you didn't actually make any changes (or any changes that you care about) and then over-write just *those* files from a download from CVS or vert (e.g. sbbs_run.tgz). If you do a directory comparision (between cvs and your local directory) you might find some *new* files in CVS and it would be safe to copy those over since you won't be over-writing anything of your own.

so i have .cfg files and .ini files with the same prefix. like sockopts.ini and sockopts.cfg.

which is safe to delete?

You can delete sockopts.cfg. Hasn't been used since 2005.

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Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Dec 17 2017 12:52 pm

so i have .cfg files and .ini files with the same prefix. like sockopts.ini and sockopts.cfg.

which is safe to delete?

You can delete sockopts.cfg. Hasn't been used since 2005.

so if i have the same files that are cfg and ini i keep the ini, right?
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Re: question
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Dec 17 2017 07:51 pm

Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Dec 17 2017 12:52 pm

so i have .cfg files and .ini files with the same prefix. like sockopts.ini and sockopts.cfg.

which is safe to delete?

You can delete sockopts.cfg. Hasn't been used since 2005.

so if i have the same files that are cfg and ini i keep the ini, right?

Probably. What other examples do you have? If you ever ran v4upgrade, you'd have a bunch of converted .ini files that aren't actually used (yet), so in that case, no, don't delete the .cfg files.

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Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Dec 17 2017 06:07 pm

so if i have the same files that are cfg and ini i keep the ini, right?

Probably. What other examples do you have? If you ever ran v4upgrade, you'd have a bunch of converted .ini files that aren't actually used (yet), so in that case, no, don't delete the .cfg files.

i never ran any upgrade program, i would just extract the files in the correct dirs.

here's what i have over the years that have this issue:

alias.cfg
alias.ini
dns_blacklist.cfg
dns_blacklist.ini
dnsbl_exempt.cfg
dnsbl_exempt.ini
domains.cfg
domains.ini
ftpalias.cfg
ftpalias.ini
mailproc.cfg
mailproc.ini
Mime_Types.Cfg
mime_types.ini
relay.cfg
relay.ini
Services.Cfg
services.ini
sockopts.cfg
sockopts.ini
twitlist.cfg
twitlist.ini
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Re: question
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Dec 17 2017 09:01 pm

Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Dec 17 2017 06:07 pm

so if i have the same files that are cfg and ini i keep the ini, right?

Probably. What other examples do you have? If you ever ran v4upgrade, you'd have a bunch of converted .ini files that aren't actually used (yet), so in that case, no, don't delete the .cfg files.

i never ran any upgrade program, i would just extract the files in the correct dirs.

It appears someone ran v4upgrade on your system at some point.

here's what i have over the years that have this issue:

alias.cfg
alias.ini <- not used in v3
dns_blacklist.cfg
dns_blacklist.ini <- not used in v3
dnsbl_exempt.cfg
dnsbl_exempt.ini <- not used in v3
domains.cfg
domains.ini <- not used in v3
ftpalias.cfg
ftpalias.ini <- not used in v3

mailproc.cfg <- deprecated (not used any longer) in v3
mailproc.ini

Mime_Types.Cfg <- deprecated in v3
mime_types.ini

relay.cfg
relay.ini <- not used in v3

Services.Cfg <- deprecated in v3
services.ini

sockopts.cfg <- deprecated in v3
sockopts.ini

twitlist.cfg
twitlist.ini <- not used in v3

The only explanation I can think of is that someone ran v4upgrade.exe on your system.

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Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Dec 17 2017 07:57 pm

The only explanation I can think of is that someone ran v4upgrade.exe on your system.

could it be because i downloaded these files from the cvs?
i didnt even know of v4upgrade.exe

a lot of them are dated 08-07-2012 (sometimes both files)
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Re: question
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Dec 17 2017 10:42 pm

Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Dec 17 2017 07:57 pm

The only explanation I can think of is that someone ran v4upgrade.exe on your system.

could it be because i downloaded these files from the cvs?

No, those files have never been in cvs.

i didnt even know of v4upgrade.exe

a lot of them are dated 08-07-2012 (sometimes both files)

Sounds like someone ran it on that date. <shrug>


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Re: question
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Dec 18 2017 11:28 am

i didnt even know of v4upgrade.exe

a lot of them are dated 08-07-2012 (sometimes both files)

Sounds like someone ran it on that date. <shrug>

there was some .js update that deuce made. i ran that once. maybe that was it. no clue. i have copied over so much stuff, it's a mess.
it's not hurting anything, though.
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