Thanks to stupid EU regulations, using WHOIS to find out who is the "owner" of a certain domain is no longer possible.

Maybe someone from outside of EU can do better than I did in the previous message?



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* An ongoing debate between Björn Felten and All rages on ...

Thanks to stupid EU regulations, using WHOIS to find out who is the "owner" of a certain domain is no longer possible.
Maybe someone from outside of EU can do better than I did in the previous message?

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Domain Name: fidonet.org
Registry Domain ID: D2802805-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Updated Date: 2019-02-25T04:52:50.00Z
Creation Date: 1988-02-25T05:00:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-02-26T05:00:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Domain Status: clienttransferprohibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clienttransferprohibited
Registrant Name: Whois Agent
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Registrant Street: PO Box 639
Registrant Street: C/O fidonet.org
Registrant City: Kirkland
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4259744730
Registrant Email: rykghvvyh@whoisprivacyprotect.com
Admin Name: Whois Agent
Admin Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Admin Street: PO Box 639
Admin Street: C/O fidonet.org
Admin City: Kirkland
Admin State/Province: WA
Admin Postal Code: 98083
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4252740657
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4259744730
Admin Email: rykghvvyh@whoisprivacyprotect.com
Tech Name: Whois Agent
Tech Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Tech Street: PO Box 639
Tech Street: C/O fidonet.org
Tech City: Kirkland
Tech State/Province: WA
Tech Postal Code: 98083
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4252740657
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4259744730
Tech Email: rykghvvyh@whoisprivacyprotect.com
Name Server: A.AUTH-NS.SONIC.NET
Name Server: B.AUTH-NS.SONIC.NET
Name Server: C.AUTH-NS.SONIC.NET
Name Server: NS.BOFH.IT
Name Server: NS.FIDONET.ORG.UA
DNSSEC: UNSIGNED
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4259744689
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/

Last update of WHOIS database: 2019-02-25T04:52:50.00Z <<<

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp


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Registrant Name: Whois Agent
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Registrant Street: PO Box 639
Registrant Street: C/O fidonet.org
Registrant City: Kirkland
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4259744730
Registrant Email: rykghvvyh@whoisprivacyprotect.com

Thanks a million, Ben. A lot more info than we get from within castle EU. But still a wee bit anonymous?

Who is this registrar, that needs to be privacy protected like this? Surely somebody must know?

The plot thickens...



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Domain Status: clienttransferprohibited

This status code tells your domain's registry to reject requests to transfer the domain from your current registrar to another.

This status indicates that it is not possible to transfer the domain name registration, which will help prevent unauthorized transfers resulting from hijacking and/or fraud. If you do want to transfer your domain, you must first contact your registrar and request that they remove this status code.

So, we are fucked until the person that has hijacked our domain gives up trying to make money from it?




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Hi Björn,

On 2019-03-10 04:48:10, you wrote to Ben Ritchey:

So, we are fucked until the person that has hijacked our domain gives
up trying to make money from it?

I think you're drawing the wrong conclusion and not looking far enough:

# dig www.fidonet.org

; <<>> DiG 9.9.9-P1 <<>> www.fidonet.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26322
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.fidonet.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.fidonet.org. 86400 IN CNAME fidonet.fidonet.org. fidonet.fidonet.org. 86400 IN A 85.94.204.146

;; Query time: 477 msec
;; SERVER: 194.109.6.66#53(194.109.6.66)
;; WHEN: Sun Mar 10 12:43:51 CET 2019
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 82


# whois 85.94.204.146
% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: this output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '85.94.204.144 - 85.94.204.159'

% Abuse contact for '85.94.204.144 - 85.94.204.159' is 'abuse@seeweb.it'

inetnum: 85.94.204.144 - 85.94.204.159
netname: BOFH-IT
descr: bofh.it network services
country: IT
admin-c: MDI-RIPE
tech-c: MDI-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: SEEWEB-MNT
mnt-irt: IRT-MDI
created: 2010-05-14T20:20:58Z
last-modified: 2010-05-14T20:20:58Z
source: RIPE

person: Marco d'Itri
address: c/o ITGate.Net
address: Corso Svizzera 185
address: I-10149 Turin
phone: +39 011 2301000
fax-no: +39 011 2309384
nic-hdl: MDI-RIPE
remarks: PGP: PGPKEY-8DC968B0
mnt-by: MDI-MNT
created: 2002-07-04T12:31:31Z
last-modified: 2014-01-24T15:21:24Z
source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '85.94.192.0/19AS12637'

route: 85.94.192.0/19
descr: Seeweb s.r.l.
origin: AS12637
mnt-by: SEEWEB-MNT
created: 2012-08-12T23:58:04Z
last-modified: 2012-08-12T23:58:04Z
source: RIPE

% This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.93.2 (BLAARKOP)


So it's still pointing to a website under control by Marco d'Itri, who I think has had it under his control for the last decade or longer. Ward knows...

Bye, Wilfred.

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So it's still pointing to a website under control by Marco d'Itri, who I think has had it under his control for the last decade or longer. Ward knows...

Indeed ...

There's no new information here ...

There's no need for the flaming either ...

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There's no new information here ...

Well, in the meantime I've been contacted by the person, that out of his own
pocket has paid for the domain for almost a decade now -- struggling with a partially defunct, Italian only, site and no cooperation from Marco. Kudos to said person!

The domain is in good hands, and if we all are patient, I'm confident that, with the assistance of Joacim, we soon will have an updated, working domain once again.



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On 2019 Mar 10 01:38:26, you wrote to All:

Thanks to stupid EU regulations, using WHOIS to find out who is the

"owner"

of a certain domain is no longer possible.

Maybe someone from outside of EU can do better than I did in the previous message?

$ whois fidonet.org
Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D2802805-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: http://www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2019-02-25T12:52:52Z
Creation Date: 1988-02-25T05:00:00Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-02-26T05:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Country: US
Name Server: NS.BOFH.IT
Name Server: NS.FIDONET.ORG.UA
Name Server: A.AUTH-NS.SONIC.NET
Name Server: B.AUTH-NS.SONIC.NET
Name Server: C.AUTH-NS.SONIC.NET
DNSSEC: unsigned

it looks like a standard entry with protected fields...

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On 2019 Mar 10 04:41:28, you wrote to Ben Ritchey:

Who is this registrar, that needs to be privacy protected like this? Surely somebody must know?

that's not the registrar, ENOM... that's the registrant whose information is being protected...

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On 2019 Mar 10 04:48:10, you wrote to Ben Ritchey:

So, we are fucked until the person that has hijacked our domain gives
up trying to make money from it?

fidonet.net is the one now owned by the domain squatter... fidonet.org is not hijacked, TTBOMK...

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mark,

fidonet.net is the one now owned by the domain squatter... fidonet.org is not hijacked, TTBOMK...

100% correct.

\%/@rd

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Hello Bj÷rn!

10 Mar 2019 01:38, Bj÷rn Felten wrote to All:

Thanks to stupid EU regulations, using WHOIS to find out who is the "owner" of a certain domain is no longer possible.

Maybe someone from outside of EU can do better than I did in the
previous message?

and UK is still in EU :)

spammers can still find my whois role account to send promotions on new domain refreshment to there pocket

i dont care with it after loosing for around 4000 dkk on bitcoins stock exchanges


Regards Benny

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Hello Bj÷rn!

10 Mar 2019 04:48, Bj÷rn Felten wrote to Ben Ritchey:

domain, you must first contact your registrar and request that they remove this status code.

bad advise !

if registra did that owner could loose domain, registra changes is not needed to get the homepage or service location changed

its often enough to change nameservers

proper way to change registra is with EPP code


Regards Benny

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Hello Wilfred!

10 Mar 2019 12:45, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Bj÷rn Felten:

So it's still pointing to a website under control by Marco d'Itri,
who I think has had it under his control for the last decade or
longer. Ward knows...

ward have always being on vacation :)


Regards Benny

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Hello Ward!

10 Mar 2019 13:21, Ward Dossche wrote to All:

There's no need for the flaming either ...

who asked about it ? :)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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