• Domain Status

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to All on Mon Feb 19 00:48:27 2018
    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG
    Updated Date: 2018-01-28T09:19:15Z
    Creation Date: 1988-02-25T05:00:00Z
    Registry Expiry Date: 2019-02-26T05:00:00Z

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Ward Dossche on Mon Feb 19 19:32:32 2018
    On 02/19/18, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)

    I see what you did there

    Best, Paul


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Paul Hayton on Mon Feb 19 10:26:23 2018
    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

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    I see what you did there

    You did? You mean you understand I just threw away some good money?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 20 08:50:40 2018
    Hello Ward!

    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

    Great Job Padrino! ;)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Fabio Bizzi on Tue Feb 20 09:26:50 2018
    Hello Ward!

    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

    Great Job Padrino! ;)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information on how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet BBS.".

    A click on "Active nodes" leads to what seems to be a phishing site.


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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364 to Joacim Melin on Tue Feb 20 10:34:18 2018
    Hello Joacim!

    20 Feb 18 09:26, you wrote to me:

    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

    Great Job Padrino! ;)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information on
    how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet BBS.".

    A click on "Active nodes" leads to what seems to be a phishing site.

    But the domain is safe, update coul be the next step. ;)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Fabio Bizzi on Tue Feb 20 10:54:31 2018
    Hello Joacim!

    20 Feb 18 09:26, you wrote to me:

    Domain Name: FIDONET.ORG

    Great Job Padrino! ;)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information on
    how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet
    BBS.".

    A click on "Active nodes" leads to what seems to be a phishing site.

    But the domain is safe, update coul be the next step. ;)

    Ciao!

    Indeed - great work!


    --- NiKom v2.3.1
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Joacim Melin on Tue Feb 20 20:05:39 2018

    Joacim,

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information on
    how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet BBS.".

    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 20 22:23:02 2018
    Joacim,

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information on JM>> how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet JM>>
    BBS.".

    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.


    --- NiKom v2.3.1
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Joacim Melin on Tue Feb 20 17:33:05 2018
    On 20 Feb 18 22:23:02, Joacim Melin said the following to Ward Dossche:

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information on JM>> how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet JM>> BBS.".

    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Do you like movies about gladiators?

    Nick

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Nick Andre on Wed Feb 21 09:26:40 2018
    On 20 Feb 18 22:23:02, Joacim Melin said the following to Ward
    Dossche:

    The entire site needs updating though and more detailed information o
    n
    how to join: "Download the POLICY4.ZIP document from a nearby FidoNet

    BBS.".

    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Do you like movies about gladiators?

    No, I'm not american.


    --- NiKom v2.3.1
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Joacim Melin on Wed Feb 21 11:50:41 2018
    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    It's because some of the Dutchmen that I know, like stating the obvious.

    But the real question here is "who will assist me, possessing the real Fido spirit without an agenda, to get this somewhere ... anywhere".

    A simple "I can do it" is not enough ... "I'll do it for the next 5 years at least" is better.

    Although I "own" the demain, I do not "control" it. I know I could, but I have no idea how much I will destroy if and when I do. There is some underlying stuff beyond the website-part.

    The only decent commitment I got for co-operation so far is from a guy in Toronto-somewhere and I may just head that way for a few days to sort it all out (and bring him some decent beers).

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Ward Dossche on Wed Feb 21 12:31:56 2018
    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    It's because some of the Dutchmen that I know, like stating the
    obvious.

    But the real question here is "who will assist me, possessing the
    real Fido spirit without an agenda, to get this somewhere ...
    anywhere".

    A simple "I can do it" is not enough ... "I'll do it for the next 5
    years at least" is better.

    Although I "own" the demain, I do not "control" it. I know I could,
    but I have no idea how much I will destroy if and when I do. There is
    some underlying stuff beyond the website-part.

    The only decent commitment I got for co-operation so far is from a
    guy in Toronto-somewhere and I may just head that way for a few days
    to sort it all out (and bring him some decent beers).

    Dude, I've been managing IT systems and web sites for over 20 years now. I know
    what it takes, but simply removing a really bad link from a really simple HTML
    based website is not something you have to loose your shit about, or for that matter, being rude about.

    If help is needed, then just say so. It's not harder than that. People will come and go but there is someone out there who is willing to help out.


    --- NiKom v2.3.1
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Joacim Melin on Wed Feb 21 12:48:52 2018

    If help is needed, then just say so. It's not harder than that. People
    will come and go but there is someone out there who is willing to help
    out.

    8-)

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Ward Dossche on Wed Feb 21 13:01:52 2018
    If help is needed, then just say so. It's not harder than that. People JM>> will come and go but there is someone out there who is willing to help JM>> out.

    8-)

    So - you need help?


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Joacim Melin on Wed Feb 21 13:27:33 2018

    So - you need help?

    Let me answer that in the private.

    \%/@rd

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joacim Melin on Wed Feb 21 09:26:32 2018

    On 2018 Feb 21 09:26:40, you wrote to Nick Andre:

    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Do you like movies about gladiators?

    No, I'm not american.

    what does that have to do with (roman?) gladiators? ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joacim Melin on Wed Feb 21 09:29:00 2018

    On 2018 Feb 21 13:01:52, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    If help is needed, then just say so. It's not harder than that.
    People will come and go but there is someone out there who is
    willing to help out.

    8-)

    So - you need help?

    yes... in more ways than one O:) :lol:

    )\/(ark

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 21 17:17:27 2018

    So - you need help?

    yes... in more ways than one O:) :lol:

    You need my bankaccount number and routing codes for a contribution? 8-)

    \%/@rd

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 21 20:04:14 2018
    On 2018 Feb 21 09:26:40, you wrote to Nick Andre:

    Do you have Dutch ancestors?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Do you like movies about gladiators?

    No, I'm not american.

    what does that have to do with (roman?) gladiators? ;)

    Well, americans like violence (since they spend a lot of time killing each other) and tend to make movies about gladiators so it all makes sence. :-D


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Wed Feb 21 14:53:56 2018

    On 2018 Feb 21 17:17:26, you wrote to me:

    So - you need help?

    yes... in more ways than one O:) :lol:

    You need my bankaccount number and routing codes for a contribution? 8-)

    i'd rather take a withdrawl :P :P :P

    )\/(ark

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Ward Dossche on Thu Feb 22 12:24:46 2018
    On 02/21/18, Ward Dossche pondered and said...


    So - you need help?

    Let me answer that in the private.

    I think some time ago I had offered also if you wanted some help with content updates / management etc. so drop me a netmail if you and/or Nick would like extra help.

    Best, Paul


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Thu Feb 22 01:32:52 2018

    So - you need help?

    yes... in more ways than one O:) :lol:

    You need my bankaccount number and routing codes for a contribution?
    8-)

    i'd rather take a withdrawl :P :P :P

    Cash is fine too. You need my mailing address? It's in the nodelist BTW.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Joacim Melin on Fri Feb 23 18:22:50 2018
    If help is needed, then just say so. It's not harder than that.
    People will come and go but there is someone out there who is
    willing to help out.

    Aye.


    -joho

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Sat Feb 24 09:53:46 2018

    On 2018 Feb 22 01:32:52, you wrote to me:


    So - you need help?

    yes... in more ways than one O:) :lol:

    You need my bankaccount number and routing codes for a contribution?
    8-)

    i'd rather take a withdrawl :P :P :P

    Cash is fine too. You need my mailing address? It's in the nodelist BTW.

    you missed the joke... *I'd* rather take a withdrawl [from your account]... the
    key is that if someone has direct deposit information for someone's account, they can also withdraw from said account... there is no flag that signals these
    types of transactions are inbound deposits only... i found this out years ago when i had a bank account and someone wanted to make a direct deposit... i queried the bank if there was some option that could be set to prevent them from withdrawing from my account and was told, "No, there is nothing to prevent
    withdrawls if they have your direct deposit information."... it wasn't much longer before i closed all my accounts and stopped playing their silly ass games...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Sat Feb 24 17:56:55 2018
    mark,

    you missed the joke... *I'd* rather take a withdrawl [from your
    account]... the key is that if someone has direct deposit information for someone's account, they can also withdraw from said account... there is
    no flag that signals these types of transactions are inbound deposits only...

    Only in countries with a disfunctional and corrupt banking system such as in the USA.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nick Andre on Sat Feb 24 19:24:29 2018

    Nick,

    In the last several years, it is now manditory that a customer at any of Canada's five major banks MUST insert their bank card into the
    terminal and key in their PIN code upon visiting the teller.

    There are no tellers here anymore, it's a thing of the past.

    And by the way, its a "chip" card. The banks here no longer
    read the magnetic stripe cards.

    That's already the case here for at least 10 years.

    Otherwise funds can be moved by cheque ...

    What's a cheque? It's still being used? The use of cheques here was stopped on Jan.1st 2002.

    I'm always amused to see how primitive the US banking system is. I never use cash... instead always the chipped bankcard, text-msg payments by cellphone, ... We had a rudimentary PC-banking system in 1985 already.

    Our debit-cards have been inactivated in the US because of massive fraud and credit cards must be opened for every trip, sometimes providing travel details,
    for up to 90 days.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mark Lewis on Sat Feb 24 12:55:02 2018
    On 24 Feb 18 09:53:46, Mark Lewis said the following to Ward Dossche:

    you missed the joke... *I'd* rather take a withdrawl [from your account]... the key is that if someone has direct deposit information for someone's account, they can also withdraw from said account... there is no flag that signals these types of transactions are inbound deposits only... i found th out years ago when i had a bank account and someone wanted to make a direct deposit... i queried the bank if there was some option that could be set to prevent them from withdrawing from my account and was told, "No, there is nothing to prevent withdrawls if they have your direct deposit i formation."... it wasn't much longer before i closed all my accounts and stopped playing their silly ass games...

    Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Now **THIS** is funny.

    In Canada, NO bank would allow this to happen. PERIOD. Not a snowballs chance in hell of this nonsense EVER happening.

    In the last several years, it is now manditory that a customer at any of Canada's five major banks MUST insert their bank card into the
    terminal and key in their PIN code upon visiting the teller. It doesn't
    matter if you are a customer for years. Doesn't matter if you are even
    trying to do a deposit at the teller into YOUR OWN account. You need to insert your bank card. And by the way, its a "chip" card. The banks here no longer read the magnetic stripe cards.

    This is in addition to the teller's discretion to randomly verify additional forms of ID and any unsatisfactory answer provided results in "Thank you eh? But we cannot complete this transaction. Sorry!"

    Then theres the many security cameras pointed at you, the security guard on duty eating poutine, etc.... Simply having account and routing information doesn't cut it here. In this scenario, that person MUST be physically
    present to transfer the funds.

    Otherwise funds can be moved by cheque (subject to a manditory waiting hold and/or CDIC insurance for fraud), or email money transfer (which is HEAVILY traced).

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Nick Andre on Sat Feb 24 23:53:33 2018
    Hello Nick!

    Saturday February 24 2018 12:55, you wrote to Mark Lewis:

    On 24 Feb 18 09:53:46, Mark Lewis said the following to Ward Dossche:

    you missed the joke... *I'd* rather take a withdrawl [from your
    account]... the key is that if someone has direct deposit
    information for someone's account, they can also withdraw from
    said account... there is no flag that signals these types of
    transactions are inbound deposits only... i found th out years ago
    when i had a bank account and someone wanted to make a direct
    deposit... i queried the bank if there was some option that could
    be set to prevent them from withdrawing from my account and was
    told, "No, there is nothing to prevent withdrawls if they have
    your direct deposit i formation."... it wasn't much longer before
    i closed all my accounts and stopped playing their silly ass
    games...

    Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Now **THIS** is funny.

    In Canada, NO bank would allow this to happen. PERIOD. Not a snowballs chance in hell of this nonsense EVER happening.

    In the last several years, it is now manditory that a customer at any
    of Canada's five major banks MUST insert their bank card into
    the terminal and key in their PIN code upon visiting the teller. It
    doesn't matter if you are a customer for years. Doesn't matter if you
    are even trying to do a deposit at the teller into YOUR OWN account.
    You need to insert your bank card. And by the way, its a "chip" card.
    The banks here no longer read the magnetic stripe cards.

    Likewise in the UK and I would have tought through out the EU if not the world.

    But during the time I had a USA bank account (in Texas) I found they did have some strange way. Like by cheque was not liked in other parts of the country and that included Texas. Needless to say I did close it as soon as I could.

    Was a pain in the ass getting funds to it from the UK anyway nad their exchange
    rates was off the scale.


    This is in addition to the teller's discretion to randomly verify
    additional forms of ID and any unsatisfactory answer provided results
    in "Thank you eh? But we cannot complete this transaction. Sorry!"

    Then theres the many security cameras pointed at you, the security
    guard on duty eating poutine, etc.... Simply having account and
    routing information doesn't cut it here. In this scenario, that person
    MUST be physically present to transfer the funds.

    Otherwise funds can be moved by cheque (subject to a manditory waiting
    hold and/or CDIC insurance for fraud), or email money transfer (which
    is HEAVILY traced).

    Nick



    Vince

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Sat Feb 24 18:43:27 2018
    On 24 Feb 18 19:24:29, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

    In the last several years, it is now manditory that a customer at any of Canada's five major banks MUST insert their bank card into the
    terminal and key in their PIN code upon visiting the teller.

    There are no tellers here anymore, it's a thing of the past.

    Wow, well we still have them here. I do notice that not many young people use a teller. Its mostly the "older crowd".

    Otherwise funds can be moved by cheque ...

    What's a cheque? It's still being used? The use of cheques here was stopped Jan.1st 2002.

    Yes, cheques are used quite frequently here. Granted, you cannot pay for groceries with a cheque, but I can pay my other bills and my landlord with one if so desired... but I almost always use on-line banking.

    The fees, however, are a bit of a deterrant to frequent use of the "tap" card.

    I'm always amused to see how primitive the US banking system is. I never u cash... instead always the chipped bankcard, text-msg payments by cellphone ... We had a rudimentary PC-banking system in 1985 already.

    I actually somehow doubt that anyone can just withdraw funds from an American account with the account/routing number like what has been mentioned here. Theres primitive, and then theres just plain outright stupidity; the amount of fraud and laundering must be the highest in the world.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nick Andre on Sun Feb 25 09:10:06 2018
    Nick,

    I actually somehow doubt that anyone can just withdraw funds from an American account with the account/routing number like what has been mentioned here. Theres primitive, and then theres just plain outright stupidity; the amount of fraud and laundering must be the highest in the world.

    I've seen incredible things so far when I was there.

    For a little while I worked for a photo-shoot company in Seattle which did nothing else but high-school sports photography. On photo-day we had literally hundreds of cheques. We could't just deliver them at the bank. We had to tally the amounts by mechanical calculator and wrap the paper strip with the individual amounts and the total around it. It was delivered at the bank, the teller looked at the final amount and put that on your account without checking. The bank statement also just had a single amount, not something showing 500 individual cheques so you never could chase an individual payment in case of a complaint. I cannot understand how such a system could function, but that is how that bank did it.

    Everything is automated here. What cannot be automated, you need to call ahead and make an appointment. There's no cash going around at the bank anymore. For example, I have 80 British Pounds, it's too much of a hassle to change them to lcal currency, so I just keep them until I go to the UK or Northern Ireland again.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nick Andre on Mon Feb 26 07:15:16 2018

    On 2018 Feb 24 12:55:02, you wrote to me:

    you missed the joke... *I'd* rather take a withdrawl [from your
    account]... the key is that if someone has direct deposit information
    for someone's account, they can also withdraw from said account...
    there is no flag that signals these types of transactions are inbound
    deposits only... i found th out years ago when i had a bank account
    and someone wanted to make a direct deposit... i queried the bank if
    there was some option that could be set to prevent them from
    withdrawing from my account and was told, "No, there is nothing to
    prevent withdrawls if they have your direct deposit i formation."...
    it wasn't much longer before i closed all my accounts and stopped
    playing their silly ass games...

    Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Now **THIS** is funny.

    you seem to have missed or misunderstood the key phrase "direct deposit"... you
    know the way a lot of people get paid these days? their employer deposits their
    paycheck directly into their account... we're certainly not talking about visiting any bank... so direct deposit where your check is depositited into your account does not prevent or have any switch to prevent your employer from taking money out of your account... let them over pay you a little bit and they
    can take it right back without even asking you...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Mon Feb 26 15:56:28 2018
    Mark,

    you seem to have missed or misunderstood the key phrase "direct
    deposit"... you know the way a lot of people get paid these days? their employer deposits their paycheck directly into their account... we're certainly not talking about visiting any bank... so direct deposit where your check is depositited into your account does not prevent or have any switch to prevent your employer from aking money out of your account...
    let them over pay you a little bit and they can take it right back
    without even asking you...

    What Nick and I understand is that you are discribing a system which would simply be laughed away here.

    We don't have a cheque-system and certainly not direct deposit.

    My salary has alway been paid by banktransfer, as is my retirment now. There's no way the system would cater for transfering a negative amount.

    I have had many experiences with American banks and I don't understand how they
    do not go collectively out of business, the whole financial system is corrupt overthere.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR19
    * Origin: Home of the ORG (2:292/854)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 27 03:43:46 2018

    On 2018 Feb 26 15:56:28, you wrote to me:

    you seem to have missed or misunderstood the key phrase "direct
    deposit"... you know the way a lot of people get paid these days?
    their employer deposits their paycheck directly into their account...
    we're certainly not talking about visiting any bank... so direct
    deposit where your check is depositited into your account does not
    prevent or have any switch to prevent your employer from aking money
    out of your account... let them over pay you a little bit and they
    can take it right back without even asking you...

    What Nick and I understand is that you are discribing a system which
    would simply be laughed away here.

    possibly if the truth were known...

    We don't have a cheque-system and certainly not direct deposit.

    you do have at least one of those...

    My salary has alway been paid by banktransfer, as is my retirment now.

    uhhh... banktransfer /is/ direct deposit ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 27 10:36:13 2018

    mark,

    My salary has alway been paid by banktransfer, as is my retirment
    now.

    uhhh... banktransfer /is/ direct deposit ;)

    Think again ... as per your definition "direct deposit" equals "direct withdrawal" by a third party.

    So it's different ... you mentioned a cheque being deposited in an account, definitely different from 'banktransfer' between 2 unrelated banks.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 27 08:12:14 2018

    On 2018 Feb 27 10:36:12, you wrote to me:

    So it's different ... you mentioned a cheque being deposited in an

    i mentioned no such thing...

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 27 14:49:40 2018
    So it's different ... you mentioned a cheque being deposited in an

    i mentioned no such thing...

    *****************************************************************************
    ... so direct
    deposit where your check is depositited into your account ... *****************************************************************************

    Taaadidaaadidaaaaa .... 8-)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 27 13:05:22 2018

    On 2018 Feb 27 14:49:40, you wrote to me:

    So it's different ... you mentioned a cheque being deposited in an

    i mentioned no such thing...

    ***************************************************************************
    ... so direct
    deposit where your check is depositited into your account ...
    ***************************************************************************

    Taaadidaaadidaaaaa .... 8-)

    whanana whanana whananan

    nope, that was from aonther of my posts after someone else brought up checks...
    my initial post explaining what i was talking about said nothing about checks... the above comes from an /example/ of direct deposit... an example made to try to explain what "direct deposit" is... another example would be when we paid our suppliers for the equipment we got from them to sell to our clients... we used direct deposit to transfer the payments to their account... they issued refunds to us in the same manner... the point being direct transfer
    of funds from one account to another... things may have changed in the 20someodd years since i ran into that... they might have added a flag to signify that transactions between two accounts are unidirectional only...

    PS: excellent pull out of context :eyeroll:

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 28 07:52:42 2018
    mark,

    PS: excellent pull out of context :eyeroll:

    You wrote:

    i mentioned no such thing...

    I merely demonstrated that 'indeed', you did mention such a thing verbatim nomatter how many words you used to deny it.

    BTW, by writing so extensively about something as minor, you violated the "6th Law of Dossche". Here it is:

    #6
    "If a person needs several paragraphs to say something basic, it's nonsense or a lie. Unless you happen to be Jane Austen or Vera Brittain, then it's like poetry".

    Take care,

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Wed Feb 28 10:38:24 2018

    On 2018 Feb 28 07:52:42, you wrote to me:

    PS: excellent pull out of context :eyeroll:

    You wrote:

    i mentioned no such thing...

    yes... i did not write anything about checks IN THE ORIGINAL... someone else brought that confusion into the mix...

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 28 18:17:09 2018

    PS: excellent pull out of context :eyeroll:

    You wrote:

    i mentioned no such thing...

    yes... i did not write anything about checks IN THE ORIGINAL... someone else brought that confusion into the mix...

    Roy Witt would be proud of you... 8-)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Wed Feb 28 16:03:16 2018

    On 2018 Feb 28 18:17:08, you wrote to me:

    PS: excellent pull out of context :eyeroll:

    You wrote:

    i mentioned no such thing...

    yes... i did not write anything about checks IN THE ORIGINAL... someone
    else brought that confusion into the mix...

    Roy Witt would be proud of you... 8-)

    don't blame me for your failings -=B-)

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