Sometimes I still feel like a backup on an optical disc is more secure>than a backup on a hard drive, because files on a hard drive could be
I find myself using Optical drives less and less however anything important to me I still back up on CDR or DVDR. Flash (Thumb) drives are very handy but I've had 2 of them fail over the years and a hard drive can crash and lose
data as well so the only 'permanent' solution I like are optical disks.
i used to like to backup to cds and dvds, but they can get cd rot, so i just dont trust them anymore.
Normally I would back up to -R (write-once) discs, and I store them in a dark dry place, and haven't had a problem. My computer desk has an area for software disc storage, and there are other CDs I have in boxes in a closet. I've had some discs I burned about 18-20 years ago and others I've bought that are older that I can still read without any problems.
there's a cd manufacturer in the uk that did research and found that discs have issues around 8-10 years.
there's bronzing, pin holes and edge rot.
i used the most popular kinds of media and i got it once in a while. with the real cheap stuff it was very commonplace.
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
For a long time it seemed Memorex was the most common brand of
writeable optical discs I saw in stores, but it seemed I had problems writing to those discs more often than other brands. I would often use brands such as Verbatim, TDK, and Sony.
It's unfortunate that M-DISCS are so expensive. I'm bumping old family VHS videos to M-DISC, as other mediums are too complex for non-techie family members. I'm spending a small fortune for those things. I'm only making a single copy to M-DISC, as I also store the ISO on HDD, so I can reburn discs to standard media as they reach their 10 year EOL. My parents will get the M-DISC burns, and everyone else will get dye based burns.
i used to like to backup to cds and dvds, but they can get cd rot, so i just dont trust them anymore.>CD-RW (re-writeable) for a backup.
The only time I ever experienced any CD degradation was when I once used a
Normally I would back up to -R (write-once) discs, and I store them in>a dark dry place, and haven't had a problem.
Buying name brand CDR/DVDR's seems to make a big difference. They are so inexpensive these days it's worth paying a little extra to be safer.
I've had some no-name ones fail almost immediately after they were made.
unreliable. Most stores seem to only carry CD-Rs and DVD-Rs though. I do wish blu-ray writeable discs were more common (particularly double-layer ones), as well as LightScribe discs.
The prices of LightScribe discs has skyrocketed to the point where I'm no longer buying/burning them. It's a bummer too, cause that was a decent technology and I have a number of drives that supported it.
Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
The prices of LightScribe discs has skyrocketed to the point where I'm no longer buying/burning them. It's a bummer too, cause that was a decent technology and I have a number of drives that supported it.
That is a bummer. I hadn't checked the prices in a while, so I didn't realize the prices had gone up that much.
floppy drive from time to time, as well. I suppose most people are not into retro computing, so.. I just watched a video of a guy that was able to use his
As for LightScribe, I haven't used that in ages. It was a great technology, as it basically turned your optical drive into a label etcher. I guess now, they just make all the media printable. I guess that would work as well, but I use a laser printer. I've never actually had a printer that could print on optical media.
i'm just more practical in my old age. i dont want shit around if i'm not using it. and cds and dvds sucked. pain in the ass to load them up or burn to them when you can use a flash drive or a harddrive.
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By: MRO to Chai on Sat Nov 10 2018 08:09 pm
i'm just more practical in my old age. i dont want shit around if i'm not using it. and cds and dvds sucked. pain in the ass to load them up or burn to them when you can use a flash drive or a harddrive.
I don't think it was such a pain to burn to optical drives. I always used optical burning software (such as Nero) but Windows started including functionality to burn to optical discs since Windows XP, I believe, so you could do drag & drop CD/DVD burning (I never used that feature much, so I don't remember how exactly it worked).
Buying name brand CDR/DVDR's seems to make a big difference.>the past. I've used Verbatim quite a bit and haven't really had problems wit
Memorex is a common brand of optical discs, but I've had problems with them i
I currently do have some Memorex although I agree they may not be the best of the 'name brand' disks. I always liked TDK when I could find them.
The other brands I have at the moment are FujiFilm and Maxell. Given marketing these days though it can be hard to know how many different 'makes' all come off the same assembly line in China.
I do recall back when standard optical disks were more expensive a friend used to buy spindles of 100 no-name ones to get a good price - so no-name they had no labels, which I believe also help protect the disks from light deterioration. But he also noted right from the start that about one in five disks would produce a coaster so you do often get what you pay for.
Given the choice between having optical drives and not having them, I still prefer to have one. I suppose the Internet is making them obsolete, but I find an occasional use for them. I also still occasionally use my USB floppy drive from time to time, as well.
Me too. I actually find myself using it quite a bit. Part of my job is maintaining my company's elderly computers (the general ledger is still run on the CP/M version of dBase...!) so being able to access floppies is still super important (though my MacBook Pro no longer supports USB floppies).
still super important (though my MacBook Pro no longer supports USB floppies).
Blu-Rays and DVDs are also great for backing up. And while I have an AUX port in my car, sometimes I just prefer to have a few CDs I can throw on and not have to worry about plugging my phone into something.
Yeah, I still like backing things up on optical discs sometimes. For my car, I bought a 32GB USB flash drive just for my car and put a bunch of MP3s on it, and I leave that plugged in in my car all the time. Makes it easy to listen to it when I want to.
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By: Nightfox to Derision on Tue Nov 13 2018 09:53 am
Yeah, I still like backing things up on optical discs sometimes. For my car, I bought a 32GB USB flash drive just for my car and put a bunch of MP3s on it, and I leave that plugged in in my car all the time. Makes it easy to listen to it when I want to.
Yep, devices are my own cloud backup. I have a 200 GB SD card in my phone and have my movies and most of my music in it. My car has a 64GB USB stick with the rest. If my PC throws a hard disk, the media is covered.
I do recall back when standard optical disks were more expensive a friend used to buy spindles of 100 no-name ones to get a good price - so no-name they had no labels, which I believe also help protect the disks from light deterioration. But he also noted right from the start that about one in
five disks would produce a coaster so you do often get what you pay for.
wow you have a real small media library. dont you get sick of hearing the same stuff all the time?
The one thing I found those good for was for burning music onto. Rarely ever had trouble with them if I used them as music CDs. I would also use them for one-time burns for OS installer discs.
The one thing I found those good for was for burning music onto. Rarely ever had trouble with them if I used them as music CDs. I would also use them for one-time burns for OS installer discs.
>> used to buy spindles of 100 no-name ones to get a good priceI do recall back when standard optical disks were more expensive a friend
The one thing I found those good for was for burning music onto. Rarely>ever had trouble with them if I used them as music CDs. I would also use
I keep a copy of the day to day stuff I need kept up to date backed up
on a flash drive until there's enough to burn to a disk but I don't do
the full O.S. very often.
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