You might want to avoid using the standard ports for telnet/ssh/rlogin.
On 3/21/22 15:41, dragon wrote:
You might want to avoid using the standard ports for telnet/ssh/rlogin.
I disagree... I tend to prefer the "standard" ports and just accept or blacklist the bot stuff.
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Re: Re: Crazy BBS connections
By: Tracker1 to dragon on Fri Apr 01 2022 10:07 pm
> On 3/21/22 15:41, dragon wrote:
>
> > You might want to avoid using the standard ports for telnet/ssh/rlogin.
>
> I disagree... I tend to prefer the "standard" ports and just accept or
> blacklist the bot stuff.
> --
i'm with ya on that. using non standard ports when you have users
is really stupid. its hard enough getting them to call.
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There are hundreds of BBSes on non-standard ports in my database. Are
all these sysops "really stupid"?
i'm with ya on that. using non standard ports when you have users
is really stupid. its hard enough getting them to call.
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There are hundreds of BBSes on non-standard ports in my database. Are
all these sysops "really stupid"?
Re: Re: Crazy BBS connections
By: dragon to MRO on Sat Apr 02 2022 12:31 pm
> > i'm with ya on that. using non standard ports when you have users
> > is really stupid. its hard enough getting them to call.
> > ---
>
> There are hundreds of BBSes on non-standard ports in my database. Are
> all these sysops "really stupid"?
yes they are. i devoted the last 25 years of my life running services for sysops and users.
you're a bit late to the show and i assume you are one of those guys that is into this stuff for the technology aspect, and learning new things.
so yes, obviously you are doing something stupid if you make it harder for people to use your system when they can go someplace else with no hassle.
Half of the top 10 most popular sites in the voting section of my
website use non-standard ports. Perhaps you are selling the users short
or inflating the degree this is a "hassle".
I have been involved in computer technology since 1981. I ran RBBS and PCBoard multinode dialup boards for well over a decade. I was a Fidonet coordinator with a Planet Connect feed servicing a large number of downstream nodes for over a decade.
I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
Since 2017 I've become re-interested in BBSes, mostly because I was
amazed to find out so many still existed. You're correct that I'm not
I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
As they say, there's always a bigger fish.
The concept of moving to nonstandard ports is dated and not useful anymore. It
accomplishes nothing other than making it more difficult for users to connect.
For all the people that say otherwise, I'll wait to see all of the examples of exploited BBS systems that were using 22/23.
- Andre
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Re: Re: Crazy BBS connections
By: dragon to MRO on Sun Apr 03 2022 01:15 am
> Half of the top 10 most popular sites in the voting section of my
> website use non-standard ports. Perhaps you are selling the users short
> or inflating the degree this is a "hassle".
your voting section is fucking bullshit.
i've talked about this before.
> I have been involved in computer technology since 1981. I ran RBBS and
> PCBoard multinode dialup boards for well over a decade. I was a Fidonet
> coordinator with a Planet Connect feed servicing a large number of
> downstream nodes for over a decade.
>
> I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
>
GOOD FOR YOU.
> Since 2017 I've become re-interested in BBSes, mostly because I was
> amazed to find out so many still existed. You're correct that I'm not
like i said, you are late to the party.
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> coordinator with a Planet Connect feed servicing a large number of
> downstream nodes for over a decade.
>
> I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
>
GOOD FOR YOU.
> Since 2017 I've become re-interested in BBSes, mostly because I was
> amazed to find out so many still existed. You're correct that I'm not
like i said, you are late to the party.
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Man, you're unpleasant. Where did the bad man touch you?
I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
As they say, there's always a bigger fish.
The concept of moving to nonstandard ports is dated and not useful anymore. It accomplishes nothing other than making it more difficult for users to connect. For all the people that say otherwise, I'll wait to see all of the examples
of exploited BBS systems that were using 22/23.
I'm finally in a place where I can setup a new board -- probably will just be for my own benefit and the fun of doing it. I'm quite surprised at the barrage of connections I started getting right out of the gate! I'm getting telnet and ssh connections almost constantly, about 3-5 a minute if not more. Trying randon usernames and such. I guess this is normal now'days? I'm running sync at home over my broadband connection, so I guess it's people just scanning ports and ip's.
Anyway just curious if this is quite common ... I remember it being so last time I ran a telnet board 15+ years ago, but not to this degree.
Thanks- Sam
I think the reason that some sysops use non-standard ports is to cut down on bots busying their nodes (attempting logins or just waiting to timeout) and possibly denying service to legit users.
users to connect. For all the people that say otherwise, I'll wait to see all of the examples of exploited BBS systems that were using 22/23.Reducing the number of idiots and botnets trying to hammer your system is the main reason why many use non standard ports.
Reducing the number of idiots and botnets trying to hammer your system is the main reason why many use non standard ports.
Re: Re: Crazy BBS connections
By: Andre to dragon on Sun Apr 03 2022 07:44 am
> > I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
>
> As they say, there's always a bigger fish.
>
> The concept of moving to nonstandard ports is dated and not useful anymore.
> It accomplishes nothing other than making it more difficult for users to
> connect. For all the people that say otherwise, I'll wait to see all of the
> examples
> of exploited BBS systems that were using 22/23.
I think the reason that some sysops use non-standard ports is to cut down on bots busying their nodes (attempting logins or just waiting to timeout) and possibly denying service to legit users.
i'm with ya on that. using non standard ports when you have users
is really stupid. its hard enough getting them to call.
There are hundreds of BBSes on non-standard ports in my database. Are
all these sysops "really stupid"?
Something doesn't become smart just because hundreds of people do it. I'm not about to eat shit because trillions of flies seem to enjoy it.
There are legit reasons for using non-standard ports - eg. your ISP prevents you from using the proper ones - but more often than not it's done for silly reasons. There are proper ways to deal with bots and hack attempts, including just ignoring them.
I disagree... I tend to prefer the "standard" ports and just
accept or blacklist the bot stuff.
i'm with ya on that. using non standard ports when you have users
is really stupid. its hard enough getting them to call.
There are hundreds of BBSes on non-standard ports in my database. Are
all these sysops "really stupid"?
Tracker1 wrote to dragon <=-
I would probably just pay for ngrok pro, a similar service, or host on
a VPS if your residential ISP won't let you use those ports.
I would probably just pay for ngrok pro, a similar service, or host
on a VPS if your residential ISP won't let you use those ports.
...
https://jerrington.me/posts/2019-01-29-self-hosted-ngrok.html
Roll your own Ngrok with Nginx, Letsencrypt, and SSH reverse
tunnelling
Ngrok is a fantastic tool for creating a secure tunnel from the
public web to a machine behind NAT or a firewall. Sadly, it costs
money and it's proprietary. If you're a developer, odds are that
you're already renting a server in the public cloud, so why not
roll your own ngrok?
It turns out that you can do it using free, off-the-shelf tools,
with no sophisticated scripting required!
On 4/3/2022 6:02 PM, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Re: Crazy BBS connections
By: Andre to dragon on Sun Apr 03 2022 07:44 am
> > I've been managing and securing IP networks for nearly 30 years.
>
> As they say, there's always a bigger fish.
>
> The concept of moving to nonstandard ports is dated and not useful any
> It accomplishes nothing other than making it more difficult for users
> connect. For all the people that say otherwise, I'll wait to see all o
> examples
> of exploited BBS systems that were using 22/23.
I think the reason that some sysops use non-standard ports is to cut down
That's actually what the original poster seemed to be asking about and
what I thought I was providing an OPTION for him to deal with it.
That may bring up the
argument that someone who wants to sneak in the building knows doors 22 or
23 are the kitchen entrance. You may have to lock those doors down and tell the caterer to use another entrance. Is this an issue? Not really if the caterer knows which door to bring the food in. That information is provided by the building manager. If you want to invite a select group of people in, you would have to advertise wherever else these people go and inform them as to which non-common door to enter from.
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