• Re: Toner

    From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Mon Jul 2 13:05:37 2018
    Re: Re: Toner
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Mon Jul 02 2018 09:32 am

    Do you use OCR software to convert scanned documents to a text format?

    OneNote will do OCR of PDFs, I might try that. Right now I do a title search.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Tue Jul 3 10:27:00 2018
    On 07-02-18 09:32, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    Re: Re: Toner
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jun 30 2018 08:26 am

    If you must deal with it. I hate storing documents as images, they take up a lot of space and are hard to manipulate in a meaningful way.

    Do you use OCR software to convert scanned documents to a text format?

    I have on rare occasions, but then you have to worry about preserving formatting.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 4 19:59:00 2018
    On 07-02-18 13:05, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

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    Re: Re: Toner
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Mon Jul 02 2018 09:32 am

    Do you use OCR software to convert scanned documents to a text format?

    OneNote will do OCR of PDFs, I might try that. Right now I do a title search.


    I admit, OneNote is pretty good,


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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Vk3jed on Wed Jul 4 19:45:04 2018
    Re: Re: Toner
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 04 2018 19:59:00

    I admit, OneNote is pretty good,

    I don't know which smartphone you use, but I believe Office Lens in combination with OneNote is awesome. I use it a lot for my whiteboards etc....

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Hawkeye on Thu Jul 5 14:31:00 2018
    On 07-04-18 19:45, Hawkeye wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    Re: Re: Toner
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 04 2018 19:59:00

    I admit, OneNote is pretty good,

    I don't know which smartphone you use, but I believe Office Lens in combination with OneNote is awesome. I use it a lot for my whiteboards etc....

    I've used Office Lens as a scanner, really neat. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 7 23:03:00 2018
    Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    OneNote will do OCR of PDFs, I might try that. Right now I do a title search.

    I admit, OneNote is pretty good,

    I started using Outlook Notes to sync text to my phone, then EverNote -
    then got sick of the ads and limits, then used OneNote; now I'm using Keep
    - the rich text and syncing with OneNote on my desktop end up taking up way
    too much room on my phone.



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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 8 18:47:00 2018
    On 07-07-18 23:03, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I started using Outlook Notes to sync text to my phone, then EverNote - then got sick of the ads and limits, then used OneNote; now I'm using
    Keep - the rich text and syncing with OneNote on my desktop end up
    taking up way too much room on my phone.

    Tried out a few there. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wed Jul 25 12:46:33 2018
    Re: Re: Roadtrip - Hot Spring
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Thu Jun 28 2018 09:30 am

    No, they would be stored in the unit. All the GPS satellites do is
    broadcast the time signals that the system relies upon to determine
    position (AFAIK), but no mapping data would be up there. That is
    added on the ground end.

    Yeah, after I posted my message, I realized the GPS satellites are probably only sending the location and the maps must be stored in the unit.

    I've noticed that my car's GPS knows when traffic is bad and can re-route me if traffic is really bad on the route it would normally take me to get somewhere. So it seems it knows more than just my location. I'm wondering where it gets its traffic information from, unless that als ocomes from GPS satellites. I don't have a cellular data connection for my GPS/car stereo (I don't think it even supports that).

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Jul 25 16:56:53 2018
    Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Wed Jul 25 2018 12:46 pm

    Re: Re: Roadtrip - Hot Spring
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Thu Jun 28 2018 09:30 am

    No, they would be stored in the unit. All the GPS satellites do is
    broadcast the time signals that the system relies upon to determine
    position (AFAIK), but no mapping data would be up there. That is
    added on the ground end.

    Yeah, after I posted my message, I realized the GPS satellites are probably only sending the location and the maps must be stored in the unit.

    I've noticed that my car's GPS knows when traffic is bad and can re-route me if traffic is really bad on the route it would normally take me to get somewhere. So it seems it knows more than just my location. I'm wondering where it gets its traffic information from, unless that als ocomes from GPS satellites. I don't have a cellular data connection for my GPS/car stereo (I don't think it even supports that).

    That made me curious, so I looked it up on the ole interwebs: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-does-live-traffic-on-gps-work

    digital man

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu Jul 26 09:38:00 2018
    On 07-25-18 12:46, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I've noticed that my car's GPS knows when traffic is bad and can
    re-route me if traffic is really bad on the route it would normally
    take me to get somewhere. So it seems it knows more than just my
    location. I'm wondering where it gets its traffic information from, unless that als ocomes from GPS satellites. I don't have a cellular
    data connection for my GPS/car stereo (I don't think it even supports that).

    Traffic info comes from an online database somewhere. In your case, probably an estimate of traffic based on time of day and historic traffic patterns that was downloaded to your car's GPS at some stage. Oh, and do you have Bluetooth?
    If so, it could be using your phone's data connection.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Jul 25 20:40:39 2018
    Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 25 2018 04:56 pm


    That made me curious, so I looked it up on the ole interwebs: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-does-live-traffic-on-gps-work


    i bought a garmin from bestbuy [so ofcourse it was old and i didnt do my homework before buying] but it works okay. sometimes when i'm driving on the interstate it wants me to take a shitty route even though i drive through there all the time. no clue why. it doesnt support all that fancy update stuff.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 10:05:27 2018
    Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 25 2018 04:56 pm

    I've noticed that my car's GPS knows when traffic is bad and can
    re-route me if traffic is really bad on the route it would normally
    take me to get somewhere. So it seems it knows more than just my
    location. I'm wondering where it gets its traffic information from,
    unless that als ocomes from GPS satellites. I don't have a cellular
    data connection for my GPS/car stereo (I don't think it even supports
    that).

    That made me curious, so I looked it up on the ole interwebs: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-does-live-traffic-on-gps-work

    Interesting.. Thanks for the link.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 10:06:37 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Thu Jul 26 2018 09:38 am

    I've noticed that my car's GPS knows when traffic is bad and can
    re-route me if traffic is really bad on the route it would normally
    take me to get somewhere. So it seems it knows more than just my
    location. I'm wondering where it gets its traffic information from,
    unless that als ocomes from GPS satellites. I don't have a cellular
    data connection for my GPS/car stereo (I don't think it even
    supports that).

    Traffic info comes from an online database somewhere. In your case, probably an estimate of traffic based on time of day and historic traffic patterns that was downloaded to your car's GPS at some stage. Oh, and do you have Bluetooth?
    If so, it could be using your phone's data connection.

    I don't often have my phone connected via Bluetooth. And I doubt it's an online internet source, since I don't have an internet connection in my car.

    Digital Man posted a link that said a GPS in a car stereo can receive traffic information via radio signals.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 19:04:00 2018
    On 07-25-18 16:56, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    That made me curious, so I looked it up on the ole interwebs: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-does-live-traffic-on-gps-work

    I suspect some of those services are US/NA specific, but cellular data is generally available worldwide (within coverage areas - but those areas with no coverage generally don't need traffic informations! ;) ).


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Fri Jul 27 06:32:00 2018
    On 07-25-18 20:40, MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

    i bought a garmin from bestbuy [so ofcourse it was old and i didnt do
    my homework before buying] but it works okay. sometimes when i'm
    driving on the interstate it wants me to take a shitty route even
    though i drive through there all the time. no clue why. it doesnt support all that fancy update stuff. ---

    I just use my phone when I need a GPS, as I don't need one full time, and Google Maps does allow me to download the route, which is handy if I know I'm going into areas with poor coverage.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 06:43:00 2018
    On 07-26-18 10:06, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I don't often have my phone connected via Bluetooth. And I doubt it's
    an online internet source, since I don't have an internet connection in
    my car.

    Digital Man posted a link that said a GPS in a car stereo can receive traffic information via radio signals.

    Yeah I saw that after, probably US only stuff, which would do it for you. :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 17:13:44 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Fri Jul 27 2018 06:32 am

    On 07-25-18 20:40, MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

    i bought a garmin from bestbuy [so ofcourse it was old and i didnt do my homework before buying] but it works okay. sometimes when i'm driving on the interstate it wants me to take a shitty route even though i drive through there all the time. no clue why. it doesnt support all that fancy update stuff. ---

    I just use my phone when I need a GPS, as I don't need one full time, and Google Maps does allow me to download the route, which is handy if I know I'm going into areas with poor coverage.


    i like my garmin. it has a lot of features and i usually depend on it to
    show my speed. i am used to looking up instead of down.also i'm nightblind so it helps to see the streets. i still use google maps when there's traffic changes. i dont want to drain on my cell battery and i have this gps and i use it. when i drove across country it was certainly advantageous to have a true gps and not just a phone.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 17:14:36 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 06:43 am

    On 07-26-18 10:06, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I don't often have my phone connected via Bluetooth. And I doubt it's an online internet source, since I don't have an internet connection in my car.

    Digital Man posted a link that said a GPS in a car stereo can receive traffic information via radio signals.

    Yeah I saw that after, probably US only stuff, which would do it for you. :)


    it also depends on the gps. some do different things.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 15:35:03 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 2018 07:04 pm

    That made me curious, so I looked it up on the ole interwebs:
    https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-does-live-traffic-on-gps-work

    I suspect some of those services are US/NA specific, but cellular data is generally available worldwide (within coverage areas - but those areas with no coverage generally don't need traffic informations! ;) ).

    Normally I think you'd need to pay for a cellular connection. I'm not sure I'd want to pay for that for my car yet (no real need to), and as you said, sometimes there is no coverage.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 15:36:50 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Fri Jul 27 2018 06:32 am

    I just use my phone when I need a GPS, as I don't need one full time, and Google Maps does allow me to download the route, which is handy if I know I'm going into areas with poor coverage.

    I find that having a GPS in my car all the time is a little less clumsy than using my phone for GPS. Also, my car has an in-dash GPS in the stereo, so the GPS audio plays through the car speakers, so I can hear it better. I suppose I could connect my phone to the car stereo with bluetooth and hear the GPS instructions that way.. But still, with the GPS in the stereo, I can be listening to music or something and then the GPS audio comes through when the GPS is giving the next instruction.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thu Jul 26 16:13:14 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 2018 05:13 pm

    show my speed. i am used to looking up instead of down.also i'm nightblind so it helps to see the streets. i still use google maps when there's

    When did we get old? :-)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Thu Jul 26 16:14:39 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 2018 03:36 pm

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Fri Jul 27 2018 06:32 am

    I just use my phone when I need a GPS, as I don't need one full time, and Google Maps does allow me to download the route, which is handy if I know I'm going into areas with poor coverage.

    I find that having a GPS in my car all the time is a little less clumsy than using my phone for GPS. Also, my car has an in-dash GPS in the stereo, so the GPS audio plays through the car speakers, so I can hear it better. I suppose I could connect my phone to the car stereo with bluetooth and hear the GPS instructions that way.. But still, with the GPS in the stereo, I can be listening to music or something and then the GPS audio comes through when the GPS is giving the next instruction.

    With an iPhone, it blends the music and driving instructions together pretty well. I use Bluetooth sometimes and sometimes I tether, but I never use a dedicated GPS/map device - haven't for a long time now.

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 17:06:05 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Jul 26 2018 04:14 pm

    With an iPhone, it blends the music and driving instructions together pretty well. I use Bluetooth sometimes and sometimes I tether, but I never use a dedicated GPS/map device - haven't for a long time now.

    I suppose if I had my phone connected via bluetooth, I could be playing music on my phone while I'm using the GPS on my phone.. But when I'm in my car, I typically play MP3s on a USB drive connected to my car stereo, or sometimes I listen to news radio or other radio stations in my car. I rarely play music from my phone in my car, but I bet my phone would blend the audio.

    Nightfox

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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 19:38:00 2018
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    On 07-25-18 16:56, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    That made me curious, so I looked it up on the ole interwebs: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-does-live-traffic-on-gps-work

    I suspect some of those services are US/NA specific, but cellular data
    is generally available worldwide (within coverage areas - but those
    areas with no coverage generally don't need traffic informations! ;) ).

    You make a good point. Everyone knows everyone in those areas anyway. ;)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Thu Jul 26 19:01:09 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 2018 05:06 pm

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Jul 26 2018 04:14 pm

    With an iPhone, it blends the music and driving instructions together pretty well. I use Bluetooth sometimes and sometimes I tether, but I never use a dedicated GPS/map device - haven't for a long time now.

    I suppose if I had my phone connected via bluetooth, I could be playing music on my phone while I'm using the GPS on my phone.. But when I'm in my car, I typically play MP3s on a USB drive connected to my car stereo, or sometimes I listen to news radio or other radio stations in my car. I rarely play music from my phone in my car, but I bet my phone would blend the audio.

    Ah, gotcha. Yeah, we usually play music (or in my case, podcasts or streaming baseball) from our phones.

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 21:59:49 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jul 26 2018 04:13 pm

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 2018 05:13 pm

    show my speed.

    SO I'M ALWAYS GOING 50 IN A 30

    show my speed. i am used to looking up instead of down.also i'm nightblind so it helps to see the streets. i still use google maps when there's

    When did we get old? :-)

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Fri Jul 27 20:09:00 2018
    On 07-26-18 17:13, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    i like my garmin. it has a lot of features and i usually depend on it
    to show my speed. i am used to looking up instead of down.also i'm nightblind so it helps to see the streets. i still use google maps
    when there's traffic changes. i dont want to drain on my cell battery
    and i have this gps and i use it. when i drove across country it was certainly advantageous to have a true gps and not just a phone.

    I can't justify the extra expense, and the phone battery issue is solved with a 12V charging setup in the car. Bonus, the phone usually arrives with a full battery. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 20:11:00 2018
    On 07-26-18 15:35, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Normally I think you'd need to pay for a cellular connection. I'm not sure I'd want to pay for that for my car yet (no real need to), and as
    you said, sometimes there is no coverage.

    I suspect some could do Bluetooth and use your phone for Internet access, if you wanted to do that. Probably makes more sense than getting a SIM for the car.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 20:14:00 2018
    On 07-26-18 15:36, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I find that having a GPS in my car all the time is a little less clumsy than using my phone for GPS. Also, my car has an in-dash GPS in the stereo, so the GPS audio plays through the car speakers, so I can hear
    it better. I suppose I could connect my phone to the car stereo with bluetooth and hear the GPS instructions that way.. But still, with the GPS in the stereo, I can be listening to music or something and then
    the GPS audio comes through when the GPS is giving the next

    If I had an actual built in GPS in the car, I'd use it, but mine's not that new. I can do phone audio through the car stereo with one of those FM transmitters. Only issue is I have 2 phones, one for music, the other does the GPS, so a little technical wizardry will be needed to get it all working the way I want. :)

    The easier alternative is to buy a new car, but I don't have the money for that. :D


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jon Justvig on Fri Jul 27 20:15:00 2018
    On 07-26-18 19:38, Jon Justvig wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I suspect some of those services are US/NA specific, but cellular data
    is generally available worldwide (within coverage areas - but those
    areas with no coverage generally don't need traffic informations! ;) ).

    You make a good point. Everyone knows everyone in those areas anyway.

    More to the point - "What traffic?" On some roads, you may be the only car for the day. :D


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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Fri Jul 27 11:50:36 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 2018 17:13:44

    i like my garmin. it has a lot of features and i usually depend on it to show my speed. i am used to looking up instead of down.also i'm nightblind s it helps to see the streets. i still use google maps when there's traffic changes. i dont want to drain on my cell battery and i have this gps and i it. when i drove across country it was certainly advantageous to have a tru gps and not just a phone.

    That was one of the features that I like with my old Garmin: speedometer. Waze has this feature, but it will ding at you the moment you go past a configurable thrrshold (I have mine at +5MPH). I will admit it isn't as good as the Garmin, where the Garmin is more stable; Waze flucuates too much for my taste.

    One feature that Waze nor Google Maps have (as far as I know) is the choice between faster or more fuel efficient routes. The more fuel efficient route just tends to be routes off of the interstates and take more time to travel (slower speeds than on the interstates).

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 11:56:32 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 2018 15:36:50

    I find that having a GPS in my car all the time is a little less clumsy than using my phone for GPS. Also, my car has an in-dash GPS in the stereo, so t GPS audio plays through the car speakers, so I can hear it better. I suppos could connect my phone to the car stereo with bluetooth and hear the GPS instructions that way.. But still, with the GPS in the stereo, I can be listening to music or something and then the GPS audio comes through when th GPS is giving the next instruction.

    Not sure what you mean by "less clumsy". Is it because the cell phone is smaller than the navigator? Or is it from the fact that your navigator is part of your car?

    I was going to say: a good stand for your phone should help keep it more stable. As far as music and navigation over Bluetooth; Android now-a-days does a good job of mixing both. I would take long trips with Google Maps or Waze running along with Pandora. Google Maps or Waze just turn down the music and perform the alerts, and then put the music back.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 27 09:29:31 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 08:11 pm

    Normally I think you'd need to pay for a cellular connection. I'm
    not sure I'd want to pay for that for my car yet (no real need to),
    and as you said, sometimes there is no coverage.

    I suspect some could do Bluetooth and use your phone for Internet access, if you wanted to do that. Probably makes more sense than getting a SIM for the car.

    Perhaps. My car stereo has a Pandora app, but it needs to connect to a smart phone for Pandora access. It's supposed to work via Bluetooth, but whenever I connect my phone with the stereo via Bluetooth and try Pandora on the stereo, it says it can't connect to Pandora on my phone. I've never gotten that to work.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 27 09:32:23 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 08:14 pm

    If I had an actual built in GPS in the car, I'd use it, but mine's not that new. I can do phone audio through the car stereo with one of those FM transmitters. Only issue is I have 2 phones, one for music, the other does the GPS, so a little technical wizardry will be needed to get it all working the way I want. :)

    The easier alternative is to buy a new car, but I don't have the money for that. :D

    My car radio is actually an aftermarket Kenwood unit. My car came with a more basic radio, and after a few years I decided to buy a car radio with a GPS. Also, the Kenwood unit has a USB port and is able to play MP3s from a USB flash drive, which the stock radio didn't, so that's another bonus..

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Jagossel on Fri Jul 27 10:40:08 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 11:56 am

    I was going to say: a good stand for your phone should help keep it more stable.

    I have these in our cars (https://www.scosche.com/magicmount/, purchased at Costco for like $20) - and they work fantastic, especially if you attach the metal to the outside (rather than the inside) of your phone case.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Fri Jul 27 11:20:17 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 11:56 am

    I find that having a GPS in my car all the time is a little less
    clumsy than using my phone for GPS. Also, my car has an in-dash GPS

    Not sure what you mean by "less clumsy". Is it because the cell phone is smaller than the navigator? Or is it from the fact that your navigator is part of your car?

    I think it's mainly because the GPS is part of the radio in my car. It's fairly easy to operate and look at because it's right there in my dashboard. Generally I don't like using my phone in the car as much because my phone is something I have to pick up and fumble around with, which I'd rather not do while I'm driving. I don't have a dedicated phone holder in my car, so I'd usually end up putting my phone in one of the cupholders or something, which also makes it just a little less convenient to look at if I'm using its GPS.

    Also, my car radio has a Pandora app that's supposed to work with a smartphone's Pandora app via bluetooth, but I've never gotten that to work. So generally I just don't my phone with my car much. I do have it paired with bluetooth, and one thing that is handy is that if someone calls me, I can answer the call with the radio's touch screen, and the radio basically acts as a bluetooth headset (there's a microphone connected to the radio, and I can listen to the person on the phone via the car's speakers). The car radio will automatically silence any music I might be playing when I take a call in the car.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Fri Jul 27 11:22:20 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Jagossel to MRO on Fri Jul 27 2018 11:50 am

    That was one of the features that I like with my old Garmin: speedometer.

    Most cars have a speedometer in the dashboard, so I don't really understand the usefullness of having a speedometer in the GPS also. Unless the dashboard speedometer is broken.. But I have noticed my GPS knows the speed limits in the area and will show if I'm going over the speed limit.

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  • From Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 20:11:14 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Fri Jul 27 2018 11:22 am

    That was one of the features that I like with my old Garmin: speedomete

    Most cars have a speedometer in the dashboard, so I don't really understand usefullness of having a speedometer in the GPS also. Unless the dashboard speedometer is broken.. But I have noticed my GPS knows the speed limits in the area and will show if I'm going over the speed limit.

    Well, yes... There is a speedometer in the dashboard; however, depending on the app or navigator, it does let you know what the speed limit is. That's very helpful for when loosing track of the speed limit or not knowing what it is while going on a road that I've never been on.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sat Jul 28 09:02:00 2018
    On 07-27-18 09:29, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Perhaps. My car stereo has a Pandora app, but it needs to connect to a smart phone for Pandora access. It's supposed to work via Bluetooth,
    but whenever I connect my phone with the stereo via Bluetooth and try Pandora on the stereo, it says it can't connect to Pandora on my phone.
    I've never gotten that to work.

    Hmm, don't you love technology sometimes. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sat Jul 28 09:04:00 2018
    On 07-27-18 09:32, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    My car radio is actually an aftermarket Kenwood unit. My car came with
    a more basic radio, and after a few years I decided to buy a car radio with a GPS. Also, the Kenwood unit has a USB port and is able to play
    MP3s from a USB flash drive, which the stock radio didn't, so that's another bonus..

    OK, cool. How is the user interface for playing MP3s? Guess if you have decent shuffle and skip buttons, as well as playlist support, it's all good. :)
    I tend to avoid working on car dashboards, too much of a pain to pull apart.
    )


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 27 19:51:57 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Fri Jul 27 2018 08:09 pm

    I can't justify the extra expense, and the phone battery issue is solved with a 12V charging setup in the car. Bonus, the phone usually arrives with a full battery. :)



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Fri Jul 27 20:35:35 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to Jagossel on Fri Jul 27 2018 10:40 am

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 11:56 am

    I was going to say: a good stand for your phone should help keep it more stable.

    I have these in our cars (https://www.scosche.com/magicmount/, purchased at Costco for like $20) - and they work fantastic, especially if you attach the metal to the outside (rather than the inside) of your phone case.

    i have a vent clip one in my truck, and a sticky pad in my sedan.
    that sticky pad works good as hell. it holds my radar detector and anything else i stick on it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Fri Jul 27 20:36:41 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 08:11 pm

    Well, yes... There is a speedometer in the dashboard; however, depending on the app or navigator, it does let you know what the speed limit is. That's very helpful for when loosing track of the speed limit or not knowing what it is while going on a road that I've never been on.



    yeah, that's what i use mine for. also around here cops depend on people losing track of the speed limit in some key areas. they will get people 60ft away from where the speed limit changes.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Fri Jul 27 21:19:54 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jul 26 2018 09:59 pm

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jul 26 2018 04:13 pm

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 26 2018 05:13 pm

    show my speed.

    SO I'M ALWAYS GOING 50 IN A 30

    show my speed. i am used to looking up instead of down.also i'm nightblind so it helps to see the streets. i still use google maps wh there's

    When did we get old? :-)

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sat Jul 28 12:18:00 2018
    On 07-27-18 19:51, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    gps have more features than a phone with google maps, usually.

    I'm yet to be convinced of that.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sat Jul 28 12:24:00 2018
    On 07-27-18 20:36, MRO wrote to Jagossel <=-

    yeah, that's what i use mine for. also around here cops depend on
    people losing track of the speed limit in some key areas. they will
    get people 60ft away from where the speed limit changes.

    That is pretty handy, though you do have to make sure the database is up to date. I have seen incorrect speed limit indications. Here, speed tolerances ar very fine, and having a reminder is very useful.


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  • From Chai@VERT/AMIGAC to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 22:10:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Jagossel <=-

    Most cars have a speedometer in the dashboard, so I don't really understand the usefullness of having a speedometer in the GPS also.

    I use it to verify that the speedometer in my car is calibrated correctly. I've owned a few vehicles where the speedometer is off just a tad.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 28 09:16:47 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sat Jul 28 2018 12:18 pm

    On 07-27-18 19:51, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    gps have more features than a phone with google maps, usually.

    I'm yet to be convinced of that.


    no, it does.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 28 15:12:58 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sat Jul 28 2018 09:04 am

    My car radio is actually an aftermarket Kenwood unit. My car came

    OK, cool. How is the user interface for playing MP3s? Guess if you have decent shuffle and skip buttons, as well as playlist support, it's all good. :)

    The interface is okay.. It lets you browse by artist, by album, or you can just browse the filesystem if you want. It has skip buttons, and I believe it has shuffle as well (I don't use the shuffle). But unfortunately it doesn't support playlists.. And one thing that bugs me is that if you're listening to an album, when you turn off your car and later get in and turn your car on again to drive, it will show you the actual filenames instead of the album track metadata that it was showing you before. It has a few quirks like that, but overall it works well enough, I suppose. Another one of its quirks is that it seems to support only a limited number of folders on the USB drive. At one point, I think I started to have too many folders on the USB drive, because not all my music was showing up in the player on the radio. I had to re-structure my files in order for all the music to show up.

    I tend to avoid working on car dashboards, too much of a pain to pull apart. )

    I didn't install it myself, I had the stereo professionally installed (the place I bought it from did the install for free when purchasing the stereo).

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Chai on Sat Jul 28 15:14:02 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip -
    By: Chai to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 10:10 pm

    Most cars have a speedometer in the dashboard, so I don't really
    understand the usefullness of having a speedometer in the GPS also.

    I use it to verify that the speedometer in my car is calibrated correctly. I've owned a few vehicles where the speedometer is off just a tad.

    But how do you know the speedometer in the GPS is calibrated correctly? And I wonder where it gets the speed data from. It might even be getting the same speed data that your car's speedomoeter gets - The car's computer might provide the speed data to both the speedometer and to the GPS unit.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sat Jul 28 15:15:31 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 27 2018 07:51 pm

    I can't justify the extra expense, and the phone battery issue is
    solved with a 12V charging setup in the car. Bonus, the phone usually
    arrives with a full battery. :)

    gps have more features than a phone with google maps, usually.

    Yeah, the GPS in my car has a feature where I can look up "points of interest", which inclues shopping, gas, restaurants, etc.. And I can also search a place by name and if it finds it, it will show me how far it is and can direct me to it. And without an internet connection in my car, I actually don't know where it gets all that information about names of places nearby and where they are.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sun Jul 29 08:07:00 2018
    On 07-28-18 09:16, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/BBSESINF
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sat Jul 28 2018 12:18 pm

    On 07-27-18 19:51, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    gps have more features than a phone with google maps, usually.

    I'm yet to be convinced of that.


    no, it does.

    That doesn't make it so, got a list of features?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Jul 28 20:44:45 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Jul 28 2018 03:15 pm

    interest", which inclues shopping, gas, restaurants, etc.. And I can also search a place by name and if it finds it, it will show me how far it is and can direct me to it. And without an internet connection in my car, I actually don't know where it gets all that information about names of places nearby and where they are.


    it's in the database. i think there's an actual CD that you load in your car when you have it built in like that.
    with my gps updates, i just download it off a torrent site and drop the files in and it works. it's a lot better than using the gps software.

    also with my gps it has 3 methods of getting me somewhere depending on what i want to avoid and it knows where traffic cams are.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 28 20:49:29 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Jul 29 2018 08:07 am


    gps have more features than a phone with google maps, usually.

    I'm yet to be convinced of that.


    no, it does.

    That doesn't make it so, got a list of features?

    just look up any gps and look at the features. google maps is nice, but doesnt compare to a real gps unit.

    what i like are the graphical and history features and i can select the types of things i want to avoid by default.

    we've traveled across the country with my garmin and we've used the google map app. i only like google maps for real time info about traffic issues. otherwise it doesnt compare to a real gps unit [even my shitty one]
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Sat Jul 28 20:26:06 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip -
    By: Nightfox to Chai on Sat Jul 28 2018 03:14 pm

    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip -
    By: Chai to Nightfox on Fri Jul 27 2018 10:10 pm

    Most cars have a speedometer in the dashboard, so I don't really
    understand the usefullness of having a speedometer in the GPS also.

    I use it to verify that the speedometer in my car is calibrated correctly. I've owned a few vehicles where the speedometer is off just a tad.

    But how do you know the speedometer in the GPS is calibrated correctly? And I wonder where it gets the speed data from. It might even be getting the same speed data that your car's speedomoeter gets - The car's computer might provide the speed data to both the speedometer and to the GPS unit.

    No, not at all. The GPS knows, accurately (within 3 meters?) your current location and your location one second ago. A little math and it knows (and tells you) your speed. This works if you walking, flying, boating, or driving.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sun Jul 29 12:41:00 2018
    On 07-28-18 15:12, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The interface is okay.. It lets you browse by artist, by album, or you can just browse the filesystem if you want. It has skip buttons, and I believe it has shuffle as well (I don't use the shuffle). But

    I use shuffle a lot on my phone. :)

    unfortunately it doesn't support playlists.. And one thing that bugs
    me is that if you're listening to an album, when you turn off your car
    and later get in and turn your car on again to drive, it will show you
    the actual filenames instead of the album track metadata that it was showing you before. It has a few quirks like that, but overall it
    works well enough, I suppose. Another one of its quirks is that it
    seems to support only a limited number of folders on the USB drive. At one point, I think I started to have too many folders on the USB drive, because not all my music was showing up in the player on the radio. I
    had to re-structure my files in order for all the music to show up.

    Hmm, some annoyances there. :)

    I tend to avoid working on car dashboards, too much of a pain to pull apart. )

    I didn't install it myself, I had the stereo professionally installed
    (the place I bought it from did the install for free when purchasing
    the stereo).

    That helps! :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sun Jul 29 12:46:00 2018
    On 07-28-18 15:15, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    Yeah, the GPS in my car has a feature where I can look up "points of interest", which inclues shopping, gas, restaurants, etc.. And I can
    also search a place by name and if it finds it, it will show me how far
    it is and can direct me to it. And without an internet connection in
    my car, I actually don't know where it gets all that information about names of places nearby and where they are.

    Phones can do that too, so not much difference.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sun Jul 29 12:48:00 2018
    On 07-28-18 20:49, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    That doesn't make it so, got a list of features?

    just look up any gps and look at the features. google maps is nice, but doesnt compare to a real gps unit.

    Don't have the time for that.

    what i like are the graphical and history features and i can select the types of things i want to avoid by default.

    Don't know what you mean by "graphical". History is always useful, though I can look up my history too.

    we've traveled across the country with my garmin and we've used the
    google map app. i only like google maps for real time info about
    traffic issues. otherwise it doesnt compare to a real gps unit [even my

    Fair enough.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sun Jul 29 14:15:35 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Jul 29 2018 12:48 pm

    what i like are the graphical and history features and i can select the types of things i want to avoid by default.

    Don't know what you mean by "graphical". History is always useful, though I can look up my history too.


    Don't have the time for that.
    ^^ if you did you would see.

    google maps is only slightly comparable to a gps unit.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Sun Jul 29 17:20:18 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip -
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Jul 28 2018 08:26 pm

    But how do you know the speedometer in the GPS is calibrated
    correctly? And I wonder where it gets the speed data from. It might

    No, not at all. The GPS knows, accurately (within 3 meters?) your current location and your location one second ago. A little math and it knows (and tells you) your speed. This works if you walking, flying, boating, or driving.

    Interesting.. I knew GPS systems were accurate, but didn't ralize they were quite accurate enough for that.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sun Jul 29 17:20:44 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip - Hot Spring)
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sun Jul 29 2018 12:46 pm

    Yeah, the GPS in my car has a feature where I can look up "points of
    interest", which inclues shopping, gas, restaurants, etc.. And I
    can also search a place by name and if it finds it, it will show me

    Phones can do that too, so not much difference.

    Yeah, that's true..

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Mon Jul 30 08:47:00 2018
    On 07-29-18 14:15, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    google maps is only slightly comparable to a gps unit.

    Good enough for me.


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  • From Gene Buckle@VERT/RETROARC to Nightfox on Mon Jul 30 09:21:57 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip -
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Jul 29 2018 05:20 pm

    No, not at all. The GPS knows, accurately (within 3 meters?) your curre
    n
    location and your location one second ago. A little math and it knows (
    a
    tells you) your speed. This works if you walking, flying, boating, or driving.

    Interesting.. I knew GPS systems were accurate, but didn't ralize they were quite accurate enough for that.

    Differential GPS (Sats + a ground station) can get you within around 5 inches.

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Nightfox on Tue Jul 31 22:59:05 2018
    Re: Re: Toner
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 29 2018 09:27:55

    Paperless at home, too - and most of my stuff is on Google Docs. My
    I still find it hard to want to rely on something in the cloud like Google Docs. What if your internet service goes out or your router dies and you're unable to access your files?

    The reason I still use my own NAS is for this reason I dont want to be dependant on my ISP or other companies. I use OneDrive a lot as I have 1 TB there. Also use dropbox.

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Nightfox on Tue Jul 31 23:08:13 2018
    Re: Re: GPS (was: Roadtrip -
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Jul 29 2018 17:20:18

    Interesting.. I knew GPS systems were accurate, but didn't ralize they were quite accurate enough for that.

    Fun fact... thank Bill Clinton for that, he signed to give it free to the public so not only the army can use it accurate but also companies and personal usage. Otherwise navigation companies and localisation like 911 was not possible.

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