Thumper wrote to All <=-
These tyrants demonize advances in firearm technology and invent terms like "ghost guns" to scare the uninformed into supporting their agenda.
But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something
deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitution.
Thumper wrote to All <=-
These tyrants demonize advances in firearm technology and invent terms like "ghost guns" to scare the uninformed into supporting their agenda.
I think they're more scared about the fact that mass shootings are becoming normalized in people's minds, because they happen so god damned often.
But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitution.
Are there precedents regarding home firearm manufacturing and modification in case law? Not being a smart ass, actually curious.
... Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force
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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Thumper on Tue Apr 12 2022 07:02 am
Thumper wrote to All <=-
These tyrants demonize advances in firearm technology and invent ter like "ghost guns" to scare the uninformed into supporting their agen
I think they're more scared about the fact that mass shootings are becomi normalized in people's minds, because they happen so god damned often.
But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitutio
Are there precedents regarding home firearm manufacturing and modificatio in case law? Not being a smart ass, actually curious.
... Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force
As a matter of fact, politicians don't care if there is crime or shootings o four horsemen of the Apocalypse ravaging the country, since bad stuff happen to the poor but not to them. Most of the time they do something for the go of the people, there is a clear hidden reason. If it actually helps people i is accidental.
The new Spanish tax on sweet drinks comes to mind. The argument for imposing was that it was aimed at reducing comsumption of drinks with excess sugar. I reality, the tax was applied to a lot of drinks with no sugar. They used fea from sugar as an excuse for pushing a law that gave them more power of the entirety of the drink industry and affected a lot of manufacturers who had nothing to do with the alleged excuse.
Surely, you see how this works.
If they were scared of guns manufactured in underground workshops being used for active shootings, it would be interesting to see how many unregistered g have been manufactured and used for one of those in an underground workshop. bet not many. Spain is an example of a country with a tight supply of commercial weapon parts, which makes it the sort of place in which baddies would turn to underground manufacturing, and while there are underground blacksmiths, baddies main sources of guns here are civil war stashes, corrup law enforcers an Eastern Europe Smugglers.
Afaik homemade guns are explicitly legal in a number of US States.
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But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitution.
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By: Thumper to All on Mon Apr 11 2022 01:10 pm
But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitution.
Completely agree, Thumper. Even though I have not yet been trained in firear ed during the American Revolutionary War, but also dissuaded both Nazi Germa
It is a strategy that is being increasingly deployed in the Ukraine against -=- Kaelon -=- kaelon@kaelon.com -=-
April 19th marked the date of the beginning of the US Revolution, the battle of Lexington and Concord. The objective of the British landing force was
to sieze the powder magazine in Conchord. That was a decisive moment since the Redcoats couldn't bring the volume of powder that matched what was at the armory. One of the volunteer's only job that night was stay at the magazine and burn it down if it looked like the Redcoats could capture it.
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By: Moondog to Kaelon on Sat Apr 30 2022 02:04 pm
April 19th marked the date of the beginning of the US Revolution, the bat of Lexington and Concord. The objective of the British landing force was to sieze the powder magazine in Conchord. That was a decisive moment sin the Redcoats couldn't bring the volume of powder that matched what was at the armory. One of the volunteer's only job that night was stay at the magazine and burn it down if it looked like the Redcoats could capture it
This is wonderful. Thanks for sharing this! Although I live on the South S iated the start of the American Revolutionary War until I moved up here two
For the Ukrainians, arming its entire population has been a critical moment ng of global freedom everywhere.
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Check out Project Appleseed when you have a chance. It's a two day marksmanship course tied in with history lessons specifically from the battle of Lexington and Conchord. If you never shot a rifle, they bring spares and y ou are the best candidate for training, and if you have shot, it's still good training. You'll learn to shoot with a rifle sling while standing, kneeling, and prone at 25 yards, and later stages include shooting at smaller scaled targets to simulate shooting at longer distances.
Re: re: the American Traditio
By: Moondog to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 12:11 am
Check out Project Appleseed when you have a chance. It's a two day marksmanship course tied in with history lessons specifically from the battle of Lexington and Conchord. If you never shot a rifle, they bring spares and y ou are the best candidate for training, and if you have shot it's still good training. You'll learn to shoot with a rifle sling while standing, kneeling, and prone at 25 yards, and later stages include shoot at smaller scaled targets to simulate shooting at longer distances.
Thanks so much for this recommendation! I checked them out at https://apples ver heard about this before from other brothers, but I will be sure to share _____
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A couple of years ago there was some falling out in the Appleseed circles, and a second group called Revere's Riders grew out of it. I'm not familiar with the drama that started it or what the major differences are, but the Appleseed guys I know endorse trying either program and are good friends with the guys who split off.
In the searching I've briefly done there were arguments about growth or expand ing the training provided by Appleseed, and a bunch of trainers and facilitators walked out and made the program how they wanted it.
Re: re: the American Traditio
By: Moondog to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 09:57 pm
A couple of years ago there was some falling out in the Appleseed circles and a second group called Revere's Riders grew out of it. I'm not famili with the drama that started it or what the major differences are, but the Appleseed guys I know endorse trying either program and are good friends with the guys who split off.
In the searching I've briefly done there were arguments about growth or expand ing the training provided by Appleseed, and a bunch of trainers a facilitators walked out and made the program how they wanted it.
In my view, as long as there is a program that teaches both civic responsibi e's a lot to be said for appreciating the awesome power and tremendous respo
an American History that just isn't taught anymore, and hasn't since before _____
-=: Kaelon :=-
Everyone is familiar with the poem about the ride of Paul Revere, however the events in real life didn't work out as told. He wasn't the only messenger - they had redundant riders. Considering the people with subjects of the king, yelling the British are coming would make little sense. Revere was caught
and interrogated, and told them everything because events were already in motion. The officer took his horse and left him to be guarded. His escape was less than spectacular. The guards wandered off and didn't take him with them.
Re: re: the American Traditio
By: Moondog to Kaelon on Wed May 04 2022 12:40 am
Everyone is familiar with the poem about the ride of Paul Revere, however the events in real life didn't work out as told. He wasn't the only messenger - they had redundant riders. Considering the people with subje of the king, yelling the British are coming would make little sense. Rev was caught
and interrogated, and told them everything because events were already in motion. The officer took his horse and left him to be guarded. His esca was less than spectacular. The guards wandered off and didn't take him w them.
While this particular tangent I am about to convey probably belongs best in Revolutionary events that school children are taught, and the actual ruthles
I feel that the public should be educated broadly on both the fundamentals o re a new nationality, and thus required a new nation." The freedom guarante _____
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The rattlesnake on the Gadsen flag came from Franklin's writings. It is o of the few animals that warns you before you act too foolishly. It will n attack unless provoked, and even then it's rattle is fair warning to whoev doesn't back down. Step on the snake and you will get hurt.
POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to THUMPER <=-
These tyrants demonize advances in firearm technology and invent terms like "ghost guns" to scare the uninformed into supporting their agenda.
I think they're more scared about the fact that mass shootings are becoming normalized in people's minds, because they happen so god
damned often.
But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something
deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitution.
Are there precedents regarding home firearm manufacturing and
modification in case law? Not being a smart ass, actually curious.
ARELOR wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
If they were scared of guns manufactured in underground workshops being used for active shootings, it would be interesting to see how many unregistered guns have been manufactured and used for one of those in
an underground workshop. I bet not many. Spain is an example of a
country with a tight supply of commercial weapon parts, which makes it
the sort of place in which baddies would turn to underground manufacturing, and while there are underground blacksmiths, baddies
main sources of guns here are civil war stashes, corrupt law enforcers
an Eastern Europe Smugglers.
Afaik homemade guns are explicitly legal in a number of US States.
MOONDOG wrote to ARELOR <=-
Regarding criminal activity with "ghost guns," they're not actual acts
of viol ence. They are arrests of individuals who are prohibited from legally owning a firearm getting caught with one. Home made firearms
are nothing new. The difference is people can buy CNC mini mills that
fit on a table top that do all the precision work.
Years ago I saw a builder's blog where the gunsmith bought a shovel at
the local big box hardware store, and used a bending brake, a saw, a
drill and a hammer cut and bend the shovel scoop into an AK receiver. Excess metal used t o create smaller pieces of the receiver that
required welding in place. The buttstock was made from the handle.
the rest of the gun was surplus parts that require no special paperwork
to own. Most military arms made aroiund and after WWII were made of stamped pieces spot welded together. the complex parts were firing components, the bolt, and the rifled barrel.
MOONDOG wrote to KAELON <=-
Manufacturing and private ownership in the States was also a must have
in the early days due to the king not having the money or sympathy to protect the new colonists from natives and aggressors from other countries. Telling the subjects to arm themselves was a critical move towards not needing a king and his army.
I think they're more scared about the fact that mass shootings are becoming normalized in people's minds, because they happen so god
damned often.
Interesting point... Of course you know the FBI definition of 'mass shooting?' Before you look it up, think in YOUR mind what the term
makes you think of...
I don't know the FBI's definition, but apparently the press / non-2A definition is more than one person shot.
ARELOR wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
If they were scared of guns manufactured in underground workshops being used for active shootings, it would be interesting to see how many unregistered guns have been manufactured and used for one of those in an underground workshop. I bet not many. Spain is an example of a country with a tight supply of commercial weapon parts, which makes it the sort of place in which baddies would turn to underground manufacturing, and while there are underground blacksmiths, baddies main sources of guns here are civil war stashes, corrupt law enforcers an Eastern Europe Smugglers.
Afaik homemade guns are explicitly legal in a number of US States.
Yeah - the rhetoric is that 'ghost guns' are behing used in crimes and
it's impossible to trace them. BUT - I've seen NOTHING in that regard
in any reported data. I'm a legal gun owner. If I decide to manufacture
my own custom build, I'm in no more danger of using it for a crime than
any of the other guns I own.
By the same token, a 'crook' that likes to use a gun for armed robbery
or in a gang shooting? Why would they assemble parts at home that need
time, attention and elbow grease when they can just buy one on the black market, or steal one?
... As my grandfather had said in his last words, "A TRUCK!"
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to MOONDOG <=-
MOONDOG wrote to ARELOR <=-
legally owning a firearm getting caught with one. Home made firearms
are nothing new. The difference is people can buy CNC mini mills that
fit on a table top that do all the precision work.
Much like 3d printers weren't a thing you could 'own at home' until
just a few years ago...
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to MOONDOG <=-
Manufacturing and private ownership in the States was also a must have
in the early days due to the king not having the money or sympathy to protect the new colonists from natives and aggressors from other countries. Telling the subjects to arm themselves was a critical move towards not needing a king and his army.
Add to this discussion the fact that "civilians shouldn't own military hardware" is another misnomer... Civilians WERE the military, and they could own canons, battleships, you name it!
Add to this discussion the fact that "civilians shouldn't own military hardware" is another misnomer... Civilians WERE the military, and they
could own canons, battleships, you name it!
On 6/26/22 06:43, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote:
Add to this discussion the fact that "civilians shouldn't own military hardware" is another misnomer... Civilians WERE the military, and they could own canons, battleships, you name it!
Pragmatically, I would probably draw a line closer to nuclear materials
and arms than a cannon or tank. Worth noting that civilian arms dealers have jets with missiles... they sell to the US (and Australia, Israel,
etc) but they are civilian companies.
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