• AR Pistol?

    From Nodoka Hanamura@VERT/NEOCINCI to All on Sat Nov 2 18:34:00 2019
    Hey,

    I don't claim to be an expert in firearms (only started doing stuff with them in VR for a while with a popular firearm simulator and only once handled an actual gun), but could someone elaborate on the purpose of a AR Pistol?
    Reason I ask is someone suggested that someone who was dealing with people harassing their parents (after having their private info released on the
    net), get one, citing their wife had one.

    After a brief glimpse at a video explaining it, it still baffles me, why
    would you get a AR Pistol for self defense (especially for new gun owners
    when it's not only easier but better to get a pistol in comparable caliber
    like .357 or .45 ACP. From what I know, it doesn't require waiting a year, nor does it require a tax stamp.

    Just wanted to get a few opinions.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nodoka Hanamura on Sun Nov 3 08:47:00 2019
    Re: AR Pistol?
    By: Nodoka Hanamura to All on Sat Nov 02 2019 06:34 pm

    Hey,

    I don't claim to be an expert in firearms (only started doing stuff with the in VR for a while with a popular firearm simulator and only once handled an actual gun), but could someone elaborate on the purpose of a AR Pistol? Reason I ask is someone suggested that someone who was dealing with people harassing their parents (after having their private info released on the net), get one, citing their wife had one.

    After a brief glimpse at a video explaining it, it still baffles me, why would you get a AR Pistol for self defense (especially for new gun owners when it's not only easier but better to get a pistol in comparable caliber like .357 or .45 ACP. From what I know, it doesn't require waiting a year, n does it require a tax stamp.

    Just wanted to get a few opinions.

    Born too late to experience the scene.
    Born just in time to see it come back.
    Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io


    The idea behind an AR pistol is to have a very compact version that is more suitable for close quarters use. The perfect scenario is to fill out federal paperwork to get a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches,
    however the workaround is an AR pistol with a shooting brace. The intent behind a Sig brace of other type of brace is to assist in shooting a pistol
    one handed, however it can function as a stock, even though the ATF's tech division declared it doesn't qualify as a stock, which would turn your pistol into a federally restricted SBR.

    If that's confusing, let me know. The difference between haves and thigns
    you can't have are based on poorly written descriptions. For a long time an
    AK with under folder stock was restrcited in Michigan because it was below
    the states limit of 31 inches, however above the federal level of 26.5
    inches, so it could be registered as a pistol. Since it was considered a pistol, technically it could be carried loaded and ready to fire in a
    vehicle, the same way a pistol can be carried if you have a concealed pistol license. When Michigan complied to federal descriptions, you could
    grandfather the weapon over and have it treated as a pistol.

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  • From Nodoka Hanamura@VERT/NEOCINCI to Moondog on Sun Nov 3 15:00:00 2019
    On 03 Nov 2019, Moondog said the following...
    The idea behind an AR pistol is to have a very compact version that is mor suitable for close quarters use. The perfect scenario is to fill out fede paperwork to get a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches, however the workaround is an AR pistol with a shooting brace. The intent behind a Sig brace of other type of brace is to assist in shooting a pisto one handed, however it can function as a stock, even though the ATF's tech division declared it doesn't qualify as a stock, which would turn your pis into a federally restricted SBR.

    I see. I personally would rather have something like a .45 ACP in Close quarters, but I can understand why Someone would want something with more stopping power or in a rifle form.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nodoka Hanamura on Mon Nov 4 01:13:00 2019
    Re: Re: AR Pistol?
    By: Nodoka Hanamura to Moondog on Sun Nov 03 2019 03:00 pm

    On 03 Nov 2019, Moondog said the following...
    The idea behind an AR pistol is to have a very compact version that is suitable for close quarters use. The perfect scenario is to fill out f paperwork to get a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches, however the workaround is an AR pistol with a shooting brace. The inte behind a Sig brace of other type of brace is to assist in shooting a pi one handed, however it can function as a stock, even though the ATF's t division declared it doesn't qualify as a stock, which would turn your into a federally restricted SBR.

    I see. I personally would rather have something like a .45 ACP in Close quarters, but I can understand why Someone would want something with more stopping power or in a rifle form.

    Born too late to experience the scene.
    Born just in time to see it come back.
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    A rifle is more stable than a handgun due to it's size. You have
    several points of contact on the body. With a handgun you require more training to properly aim and stabilize it since it's all in how you grip it plus muscle memory insuring your sights line up consistently when you aim. Having a longer sight radius on a rifle or SBR also increases accuracy and effective range.

    .45 acp has it's charms, however recoil from pocket pistols isn't one of
    them. 9mm has earned it's popularity due to the fact you can put more shots
    on target faster with 9 than a .45. .223 in a rifle/ sbr platform is
    practical over a longer range due to it's high velocity, yet skews and loses energy quickly when hitting a wall. It's safer to fire indoors than most handgun rounds and shotgun slugs.

    With all said and done, shot placement is the most important factor. Hitting
    a vital zone the size of a grapefruit consistently under stress requires a
    bit of practice and being familair with what you are shooting.

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